Why not to use io salt - Page 5

SeaHorse_Fanatic · #41 06-03-2015, 04:52 PM

I will be in Aldergrove this Friday and can pick up a sample of the salt for testing if Vancity wants to meet after the weekend. I've been using IO salt and I know & respect spitfire's years of reefing experience. If we can have the salt tested by the company and have a definitive answer as to what parameter is off, that would ease my mind and the minds of a lot of other reefers. Just putting this offer out there. I can meet you at Oceanic if you want.

Thanks,

Anthony

GoFish · #42 06-03-2015, 06:39 PM

Just send me a text if you figure it out Anthony, If Tyler hasn't thrown it out yet

The Guy · #43 06-03-2015, 06:57 PM

I have a new unopened bucket of IO from King ED, if you want a little for comparison testing.
I have used IO since I started reefing 3 years ago and have never had any issues so far so good.

jason604 · #44 06-04-2015, 01:14 AM

My biggest fear is waking up 1 morning to everything wiped. So sorry it happened to U. This is why I won't go all out on my tank Cuz it can be dead the next day. Damn. Please try to find the problem so we all can try to avoid

Myka · #45 06-04-2015, 02:00 AM

You could FedEx a sample to me. Just stick it in a bag and print off a shipping label...FedEx will come pick it up from your house and even put it in a box for you. I'll pay for it. Pm me if that's what you want to do.

SeaHorse_Fanatic · #46 06-04-2015, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Myka

You could FedEx a sample to me. Just stick it in a bag and print off a shipping label...FedEx will come pick it up from your house and even put it in a box for you. I'll pay for it. Pm me if that's what you want to do.

That's an even easier solution. Thanks Myka.

gobytron · #47 06-04-2015, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TimT

Assumptions/generalizations are always risky and usually incorrect.

So there's a funny saying... Assume = making an ASS out of U and ME

Normally I'm very hesitant to blame salt or other types of additives as it's usually something the hobbyist did or something that happened to the tank. This situation is different though. Spit.fire is an experienced hobbyist and able to discern if it was the salt, the water, the mixing pump or something he did. When combined with my own personal experiences with this salt, my knowledge of how much freight is for salt and the price it is sold for. I think it's a 90%+ chance it's the salt, but no one can know for sure.

If the salt mix had ammonia contamination it could easily do to a tank what was reported

I use either D+D or Red Sea as they are made from evaporated ocean water.

Now who's making an ass out of u and me?

With no testing done, experience is irrelevant.

I think it's actually important to test this salt, many of us trust IO and have for a decade or more.

TimT · #48 06-04-2015, 07:13 PM

So before this gets out of hand due to mis understandings of intent and assumptions let me clarify and revise my thoughts and offer a suggestion to CanReef members and mods.

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Originally Posted by Gobytron

Now who's making an ass out of u and me?

This was meant as a joke and not an attack. If I have offended you or anyone else I am sorry for that.

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Originally Posted by Gobytron

With no testing done, experience is irrelevant.

I agree 100%. Testing is very important and will reveal a lot. An expert witness relies on their experience and also testing to back up their opinion. It was wrong of me to assume that straight experience was enough, no matter how much experience a person has.

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Originally Posted by Gobytron

I think it's actually important to test this salt, many of us trust IO and have for a decade or more.

I agree.

My suggestion for community members and CanReef mods is this. Unless there is actual tests that reveal a problem with a product there should be no negative posts about that product. Mods should watch out for these posts and delete them as they occur.

Back to work...lunch breaks over. LoL

davej · #49 06-04-2015, 07:30 PM

Hey Tim don't worry too much, he just likes to stir the pot every chance he gets. If you read back thru his posts many, many are just stirring the pot. It gets old quick.

TimT · #50 06-04-2015, 07:55 PM

Hi Dave,

I understand but I wanted to make sure there was no mis understandings or hurt feelings. As well I have corrected my belief that an Expert Witness uses testing to verify their conclusions, not just their experience. So I needed to apologize and revise my position as it's changed due to the thread.

Cheers,
Tim