Where to find CO2 cylinders (other than LFS or MO)

[MitchM]

We're dealing with 900 - 1000 psi here....

I think that the LAST thing anyone would want is something cheap and possibly dangerous.

Get a certified tank, don't muck around with DIY.

IMO, made-for-aquarium set-ups are overpriced.

Mitch ;)

[StirCrazy]

Originally posted by Carpentersreef:
We're dealing with 900 - 1000 psi here....

I think that the LAST thing anyone would want is something cheap and possibly dangerous.

Get a certified tank, don't muck around with DIY.

Mitch ;)

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">um, the only type of tank we are talking about IS a certified tank Mitch, you cannot get a non certified tank filled.. no one is talking about making a tank, only getting a tank that was say a fire extinguisher and having it hydrostated and re-valved (which is the certification)

JoJo, no that is not the valve we are talking about.. we are talking about a normal high pressure valve, if you open it it will release all your co2. the sodamystic (or how ever it is spelt) bottle went through my head but it is realy to small, and you pay to much to fill them.

Steve

[ 15 August 2002, 06:28: Message edited by: StirCrazy ]

[MitchM]

Steve, I realize that.
Sometimes in our quest to not get ripped off, the safety factor is sometimes forgotten about... ;)

I'm not familiar with the contents and testing procedures of fire extinguishers, but I do know that some of them are "one time use only".

I would hate to hear of "someone's friend" replacing a valve, and "someone I know who works in a welding supply place" filling a poorly certified tank, only to have an unfortunate accident happen.

Mitch :cool:

[Delphinus]

The fire extinguisher cylinders at the place I was talking to would be hydrostatic tested and certified to 3000lbs. of pressure. That sounded pretty impressive to me over the phone, but Jayson at SWC told me that if it's "only 3000 lbs." then it actually isn't good enough?? Exactly what rating do I need the tanks certified to, can anyone tell me that?

It seems to me that no matter which way I slice it, this is an almost $400 proposition. Ouch, I don't have that. I was hoping to spend about $400 at the end of the day which included the reactor itself; not something closer to a grand. J&L's tanks look pretty good but it's $340 with reg, needle valve and solenoid, they told me to add another $30 to make it a 20lb. cylinder. If in town I say get a used 20lb. cylinder which the best price I found was $180, I'd still have to buy the reg., needle valve and solenoid and the best price I could find on that is SWC for $150 so $180 + $150 = $330 so for a savings of $40 to go with a second-hand cylinder when comparing apples to apples. Call me crazy but the J&L solution looks a lot prettier of those two options. So before the reactor is even LOOKED at I've spent nearly $400. Wow. So you can probably appreciate how attractive that fire extinguisher looks right now; otherwise I guess I better start saving, it's going to be a while before this ever becomes a reality.

Anyone sick and tired of having a calcium reactor that they want to sell off for cheap? Heh heh.. ;)

PS. Mitch, that behemoth is 70lbs.?? Wow, no wonder it hurt when it fell on my toe when we moved it ;) How long does that last you between fills?

[JoJo]

Thanks Steve!

we are talking about a normal high pressure valve, if you open it it will release all your co2.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's the valve meant. My tank does have a high pressure valve. However, unlike the one you've mentioned where you just turn the dial/handle like a faucet to release the co2, the one on my tank releases co2 when it is mounted to the soda machine. The spring loaded pin in the valve is depressed by a nozzle in the soda machine which releases the co2 into the unit. Unfortunately, my regulators doesn't screw on to this valve. That's why I need to have it replaced.

As to the size of the tank being too small, It is just for testing purposes. I was given the regulators, needle valve as well as the tank. I figure would build a reactor and make sure it works before investing in a larger tank.

[StirCrazy]

Originally posted by delphinus:
Jayson at SWC told me that if it's "only 3000 lbs." then it actually isn't good enough??

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">um this doesent make sence at all, when you get a bottled filled it is only 2000lbs, or less, usaly for co2.. infact if you look at a regulator 2000lb and up is red zone so a 3000lb tested bottle is more than adaquat.. I don't know what kind of bottle Jason is selling that have a higher rating than that, but I woulden't waist the extra money on it when it isn't needed..

Mitch, no problem man, just the way you worded that caught me off guard hehe.. you almost had me wondering if I could make a bottle :D :D

JoJo, I remember the bottles you are talking about but I can't remember if they have a standard valve thread on them so you might not be able to do it.. but I would take the regualtor and the bottle to a place and see what they can do. If you don't mind filling a lot that would be a good deal to play with.

Steve

[ 15 August 2002, 17:14: Message edited by: StirCrazy ]

[JoJo]

Thanks Steve!!!!

[MitchM]

Originally posted by delphinus:
How long does that last you between fills?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A few years.
For 33 bucks per fillup, I can handle the initial cash layout. :D

It gives me a little extra gas for the odd leak, too! :D

Mitch