Might have to eat my own words re: quarantine

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by Reef Pilot

So your best option at this point is probably to just feed them well, garlic, selcon, etc, and maybe try some reef safe remedies that others say have worked. And hope that your fishes' immune system kicks in and fights off the ick or velvet. Hopefully you have ick, not velvet.

no, this isn't ich. Feeding isn't going to do anything, the first one that I lost was eating like a pig 12 hours earlier, even eating bits of the fresh garlic. While I'm a proponent of that method with ich, this isn't the same.

[Reef Pilot]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

no, this isn't ich. Feeding isn't going to do anything, the first one that I lost was eating like a pig 12 hours earlier, even eating bits of the fresh garlic. While I'm a proponent of that method with ich, this isn't the same.

OK, very sorry to hear that. I feel your pain. Wish you the best.

[Aquattro]

Well, it looks like I might have enough room to drain the tank and a fast pump to fill it. That's the plan.

I now need ideas on treatment tank setup. Using water from the main tank, so good for a few days. Not sure if I should skim with copper meds? Not sure I have a skimmer. No seeded rock to sacrifice, although copper binds with carbonates, so not a good plan anyway. I can buy salt and do water changes every 4 or 5 days. Will that work?

[Bblinks]

Damn Bradd, i am so sorry to hear that! I know exactly how you feel right now' just went through the same thing, hardest thing was watching my 7 years old yellow tang go and the 300 dollars Achilles. Funny i also added the last fish few month back and the only reason I think what made mv act up was stress which was brought on by WWIII between the tangs. Anyways it wiped out the whole tank except for my mystery and cleaner wrasse.

If you need containers to drain your tank, I have a 150 gallons rubber maid you can borrow if you wanna come over to the mainland or you can go get those 44 gallons tuff containers from hd. If you use them to only hold water and nothing else there is a good chance you can clean them up afterwards and return it. I have done it once out of desperation. 50 buck per 44 gallons container isn't exactly cheap. Do you have uv by chance. I would run that in the tank and a filter sock to kill off the rest of it in the tank. How many residents you got in your tank right now? I think you need to weight out the which is more important, the fish or the coral. I wouldnt risk losing any of your sps colonies if you only have a few fish in the tank as cruel as it sounds.

Anyways Bradd, I wish best of luck! If I can do anything for please do not hesitate to ask.

[Bblinks]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Well, it looks like I might have enough room to drain the tank and a fast pump to fill it. That's the plan.

I now need ideas on treatment tank setup. Using water from the main tank, so good for a few days. Not sure if I should skim with copper meds? Not sure I have a skimmer. No seeded rock to sacrifice, although copper binds with carbonates, so not a good plan anyway. I can buy salt and do water changes every 4 or 5 days. Will that work?

Call progressive and see if he's got any treatment tank setup? I know a few lfs in town that will quarantine and treat sick fish for me.

[George]

Sorry to hear about that Brad.
Life cycle of Marine velvet is very similar to marine ich where they can multiply by numbers with day goes by. So you may not see the symptom for days (or weeks) and then bam!
I would suggest giving the fish a freshwater dip after you go them out. And give them a formalin bath after that. After that, put them into a QT and treat any secondary infections.
I hate to be pessimistic but if you see sign of marine velvet, most of time it's too late. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
Good luck.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by Bblinks

Call progressive and see if he's got any treatment tank setup? I know a few lfs in town that will quarantine and treat sick fish for me.

They don't, the tanks in the back were shut down for maintenance. I should be ok here, just gotta figure out how to run the treatment tank without killing them.
Got enough storage I think, but I have a 125g sump under my stairs, if I have to, I'll figure out how to get it out of there.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by George

Sorry to hear about that Brad.
Life cycle of Marine velvet is very similar to marine ich where they can multiply by numbers with day goes by. So you may not see the symptom for days (or weeks) and then bam!
I would suggest giving the fish a freshwater dip after you go them out. And give them a formalin bath after that. After that, put them into a QT and treat any secondary infections.
I hate to be pessimistic but if you see sign of marine velvet, most of time it's too late. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
Good luck.

Ya, agreed. My queen and naso still look good, as do some of the smaller fish. If I get this done today, I should be able to save them.

[fishoholic]

From what I remember the velvet can be floating in the water (like ich) so I would use new SW.

What I did (major PITA but it worked) was set up a 110g QT tank with new SW and I did a 50% water change every other day so ammonia would not build up, and treated with cuppermine (sp?) for 2 weeks. During the copper treatment I bought 80 pounds of cured LR from a tank shut down and set up a 90ish gallon rubbermaid. Transferred all my fish (only 8 left out of 34) after treatment into the rubbermaid (did weekly w/c) and kept them there for 6 weeks. They were out of the display for 8 weeks total then I slowly added them back into the display after that. Ran only heaters and powerheads in QT and the rubbermaid.

I used PVC pipes for hiding spots in the QT and followed the instructions on the cuppermine bottle for treatment

[George]

Originally Posted by fishoholic

From what I remember the velvet can be floating in the water (like ich) so I would use new SW.

That's correct. marine velvet just like marine ich has a free floating stage. Don't use old water.