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For the record.. the "It's fact comment" is a friendly jab against Brad's own comments regarding MH when compared against T5 in these two threads where he loving says that "you NEED MH.. it's a fact"

http://canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=40826

http://canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=40940
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For the record.. the "It's fact comment" is a friendly jab against Brad's own comments regarding MH when compared against T5 in these two threads where he loving says that "you NEED MH.. it's a fact"

http://canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=40826

http://canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=40940
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Old 04-14-2008, 02:26 PM
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I thought this was supposed to be a picture thread of tanks/corals using Zeo??? I was also interested to see these corals, but all I see are pics of people saying "I don't use it, and see what I have!". Maybe we need a new thread...
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Zeovit is like your tank having its own personal trainer.

bv_reefer: I would get a kalium test kit before dosing K-Balance. Depending on which salt your using and how old your tank is, the levels may be fine.
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Hey, here's what I KNOW:

1) In the 2 weeks since I set up my first reef tank my SPS have never looked better than they have in the last 3 days since starting dosing.

2) The people who posted pics of their SPS to show off how much color they have without ZEO cheated and photoshopped their pics - that's a fact!

3) There have been 11 randomized controlled trials that have conclusively shown that ZEO products were able to completely eliminate malignant melanoma. Incidentally, those patients who underwent the ZEO treatment also developed incredible tans and perfect complexions.






















Wow! Impressive over-reaction from a lot of people - well done! Tony, Greg and Brad hit the nail on the head.

From an aesthetic standpoint I actually like the "pastel" colors that some people criticize Zeo users of getting when used in conjunction with T5s in a lot of tanks. If I could affordably automate the dosing of Zeo products I would most likely give it a try. But given the weekly travel that I have to do I just can't try it until the end of the summer when my schedule settles down.
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Old 04-14-2008, 03:05 PM
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snappy you dose AAs,what are they amino acids and how much do you dose?
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For the record.. the "It's fact comment" is a friendly jab against Brad's own comments regarding MH when compared against T5 in these two threads where he loving says that "you NEED MH.. it's a fact"

http://canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=40826

http://canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=40940
Well geez, if comments like that are made, then a road map to all relevant posts would be nice to have BEFORE I feel a need to respond
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Old 04-14-2008, 03:39 PM
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OK I will chime in.

I ran an SPS dominated tank for 5 years prior to going with a larger tank and starting Zeovit.
My colour prior to using Zeovit was great. I had pieces from many local reefers that actually became way better than in others tanks. I was very happy with my results.
but I always battled nuance algae like calerpa in my main tank.
So I had a choice build a Refugium or look for alternative nitrate and phosphate removal.
This took place the exact time we started seeing Zeovit in Canada.
After weighing the options I converted my refugium plans into a Frag tank and strated Zeovit after week 2 of my main systems cycle.
I watched as my cycle finished and watched as I had only a small new tank algea bloom.

Things I've observed while on Zeovit
1. My great looking pieces still look great (no major changes)
2. My average pieces have improved colour
3. My boring pieces are now a whole ton nicer

General observations
1. Colour tips of all corals have become richer and the tips colour stretch further down the coral branch
2. using salifert Nitrate test kits there is no nitrates in the water column
3. Using Deltec Phosphate test kits there is less than 0.03 phosphates

Cautions
Unlike what is stated above Zeovit is much more sensitive to improper balance of CA, ALK, Mag. Elevated levels that are used by many is not advised as RTN or bleaching can occur (trust me I know)

Not ever supplement is for everyone. I have found that there are 2 supplements certain corals react poorly to Spur2 and Stylo-Pocci Glow. While others have seen great results form these.

My choice to run Zeo was to aid in Nitrate and Phosphate removal. The Bactria that is responsible for the removal is then used as food for your corals. At times my polyp extension is so good the beauty of the coral is lost.

I typically do not take part in this type of thread because it quickly turns into a witch hunt fuelled by ignorance. but in the spirit of the origin of the thread










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Old 04-14-2008, 03:49 PM
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To ramble on further. the basic elements of Zeovit (ZeoLith, ZeoBac, ZeoStart2, and ZeoFood7) are all part of the nitrate and phosphate removal system.
This will help bring out better colour in coral tissue to a certain extent. but to truly debate the effectiveness of 'Zeo supplements' one should break down the additional additives in the Zeovit system as to their benefits or lack there of.

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Much like Jason, my justification for going with zeo was to reduce bad algae. No matter what I was doing I could just not seem to kick hair algae and green film algae. As I did not have a lot of coral (and even though I have been adding a few pieces my tank is still very lightly stocked) I had read and seen the benefits of zeo and gave it a shot.

I have been running for 7 weeks now and I have zero GHA (just a little remaining on powerheads but a good vinegar cleaning should take care of that) I have very little green film, just a bit on the glass ever couple days I sweep off, mainly in lower flow areas (which I am going to try to remedy by adding a vortech for wave action)

My water clarity now is amazing, my water no longer looks yellow and is crisp and clear, my waste water coming out of the tank on water changes is almost the same colour as the new water coming in.

I am sure everyones experience will be different but I bought in hook line and sinker.. I am currently using :

Reefers Best Salt
Basic 3 (Start/Bac/Food)
Amino Acid Concentrate
Sponge Power
Coral Snow
Phols Coral Vitaizer

I am considering:
Spur
K-balance
Stylo Pocci-Grow

My coral current stocklist is :

4 Montiporia Colonies
4 Acro Colonies
1 Pocilipora Colony
1 Monti Frag
2 Acro Frag
Ricordia
Zoos
Open Brain
Crocea Clam
Frogspawn
Torch

Purple Tang
Regal Tang
2xPercula
6xChromis
Sleeper Goby
Sixline Wrasse
Firefish
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