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View Poll Results: Will you support a strong ecologically/environmentally conscious store over others?
Absolutely! 76 62.30%
Nope... 4 3.28%
It doesn't matter. 10 8.20%
Maybe... (on what condition?) 32 26.23%
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:12 AM
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Sorry that was me.
I tend to get all the staff in trouble.

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Hahaha! No I know for sure it wasn't you

I think everyone knows what I mean though about getting much better service if you become buddies with the guys working there. Thats just not me though, great guys but Im not there to chat, just buy!

Anthony also has a great point about how if the prices were low and product was right, most people would be there!
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:13 PM
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Any step towards a more eco=friendly tank is welcome in my opinion. The only problem being very few fish are captively bred. Corals more so, but few fish are. If they had a buy-back trade program with reefers out there with fish and corals it would be beneficial. I think education would have to be an important part of the mix though. For instance, convinve people to buy mostly base rock and seed with some liverock or preferably use aquacultured liverock. It takes time and its more trouble (sometimes) but if everyone used 1/4 to a 1/2 less wild stuff the better. It can only benefit in the long run. Maybe buy liverock from local reefers going out of business so to speak. but it cheap (not to cheap as to not make a profit) then sell it back say 50-75 cents to a dollar more a pound. The problem with eco-friendly is for the first little bit at least it is more expensive, and in a hobby that most i think would consider a luxury hobby, price goes a long way. I do for instance pay more for eco-friendly or go out of my way when I can, but alas not always....having ideals in this day and age is quite expensive.
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Old 10-13-2007, 10:19 PM
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I have been wondering about how us hobbiests could be less intrusive on the wild livestock myself.

I have also been wondering (and I know the retailers won't like this at all) if we were all to work together as a co-op somehow and have some kind of Non-profit store that could support itself including staff, rent maitenence and the other big ones it takes to operaate a for profit business.


Things to consider would be:

Monthly overhead to operate... how does the lease obligation get met every month.

Who would be the Co-op Manager. (Maybe Anthony would be happy to covert his entire operation into the Grand Co-op for a monthly salary) Just kidding Anthony.

If this was logistically viable... could it operate with low enough prices to make it worth while. Some retailers may only getting 20% average margin.

If they are making 100% margin then it may make sense.

The more probable solution is to operate a consignment (commision) type of exchange that was connected all through out NA via Can Reef type of Board and physical locations and a portion of the proceeds could go into supporting safe collection type of organisations.

For this to work a large network of retailers would have to be willing to take on a consignment type of business in their existing location. This would mean seperate quarantine facicilties and they may not be willing to sign up to such a program.

There has to be a way though.




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I would, unless the prices were outrageously high. But if the prices were within my budget, id shop at a store like that first. Even if the prices are a bit higher than reef harvested livestock.
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