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Old 06-25-2004, 12:42 AM
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Hello,

The EuroReef, no matter how I look at them, are over rated in their performance. This is in comparison to a good Beckett, Mazzei, or airstone based skimmer. Besides, to get the same performance, multiple pumps are required. Not to mention the fountain effect for the in sump models.

Sure, I can start a skimmer line with the Sedra pumps equipped with needle wheels but I'd rather stay away from them. The ultimate way to go is to use a good pressure rated external pump driving a good high performance injector, whether ETSS type, Beckett, or Mazzei.

For me to give up on using an Iwaki for a Sedra pump, no way. There are reasons the Iwaki costs more and there are still people who use them.

The only reason I see why the EuroReef is good is that it comes with a pump so there are no plumbing that needs to be done. But by the time one gets to the stage of getting a EuroReef, there probably has quite a fair bit of plumbing done anyway for the rest of the system.

It's like driving a Volvo. Sure it is a nice car and a safe car. There are also a lot of people who likes them for the bang of the buck. But is it more luxury and safer than a BMW, Lexus, Mercedes?

Or in terms of stereo. Sure Nakamichi or Adcom sounds nice. But is it at the level of Conrad-Johnson, Audio Research, and the ultimate Mark Levison? JBL also makes nice speakers, but is it a Revel, Wilson, B&W, Focal?

Not posting to bash on the EuroReef. Like I said, value and ease of setup probably. Truly high performance, there are better ones.

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Old 06-25-2004, 02:06 AM
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yeah like a precision marine bullet
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Old 06-25-2004, 02:10 AM
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Hmm, I have a double beckett now, only running one, perhaps there will be some improvement when I run two...more pumps...

Anyway, there is no comparison in the quantity and quality I got with a Euroreef, that was even underrated for the tank size. And on top of that, it will take me an hour to clean the thing for having undo all those screws....
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Old 06-25-2004, 02:24 AM
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IMO it just comes down to opinion and preference. But I agree the big selling point for the EuroReefs is plug and play out of the box, also quiet reliable and good performance. Anyway I bought it because of all the positive word of mouth, although it's probably somewhat over-rated.
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Old 06-25-2004, 02:28 AM
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Or in terms of stereo. Sure Nakamichi or Adcom sounds nice. But is it at the level of Conrad-Johnson, Audio Research, and the ultimate Mark Levison? JBL also makes nice speakers, but is it a Revel, Wilson, B&W, Focal?
WOW! you know your audio equipment!!! good stuff!!
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Old 06-25-2004, 04:34 AM
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Wow, I forgot I made this thread!

Anyway, I like my EuroReef because it is so easy to set up and clean. I'm sure big beckett skimmers are great too, but I'll have to wait to find out...may the next tank
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Old 06-25-2004, 04:50 AM
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comparing different designs of skimmers is like comparing apples to oranges.

Each do the job they were designed to do. In their own way. Some with brute force, some with finesse.

I have run all the designs talked about here. Except a mazzei. Which is another style of venturi of which I have run several.

They all work well. Each has good and bad points. Each can do the job.

The decision is up to you how you want that job done. Then buy the skimmer to fit your needs.

saying one is better than another is a bit of a waste of energy IMO.
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Old 06-25-2004, 05:58 AM
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Titus

I like my volvo !


Wendell

PS and my Euroreef in my 60 gallon system in my reading room with almost no noise.
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