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Old 02-01-2004, 05:09 PM
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If you want freedom of speech, stand on a street corner. This, like most, is a privetely owned board, with guidelines for posting.

I dont think it matters whats was in the papers or what someone else was talking about, it does not need repeating here , without factual proof. Speculation is for the birds.

Thats not the purpose of this board.

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Old 02-01-2004, 06:03 PM
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People...I am just trying to play devil's advocate and save some possible grief for everyone involved.

If you don't think it can happen in Canada, dig your head out of the sand. I will ask you to look at;

www.petswarehouse.com

Tell me what you think and how it is relevent to this discussion. There are many parallels. By the way, I believe that defamation of character or slander can easily get you in a heap of trouble in this country.
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Old 02-01-2004, 09:17 PM
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It's sad that the world has become so litigious...

I'd be curious to see the outcome of that legal battle.

if you have received poor service and shitty products from a company, are you not allowed to inform the public about it? there are many sites that do reviews on the internet, if you could sue over statements about poor service, could you not sue over a poor review?

anyways, just some thoughts.

I am not a lawyer by any means, but it would blow my mind to see seth sued over the comments above. but then again, I guess its possible.

back on topic, it sad that one of the few marine shops in the lowermainland burned down. bye bye a little bit of selection...
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Old 02-01-2004, 09:26 PM
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here's an article from the richmond local paper

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Fish fry in suspicious blaze

Richmond Fire Rescue responded to a suspicious fire that caused more than $500,000 in damage to a tropical fish store on No. 3 Road.

According to fire captain John Mitchell, the department received a call in the early morning hours of Monday by a man driving by.

He noticed smoke billowing out of Aquafanatics at #170- 3411 No. 3 Road.

When fire rescue members arrived at the scene, the building was ablaze.

"Somebody entered the premises between midnight and 3 a.m. and set the place on fire," Mitchell said. "The damage to the building and the contents was extensive."

The building was unoccupied at the time but many exotic fish died in the blaze.

The arson is still under investigation and so far the police have no suspects.

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According to this article, someone did set a fire. (I SAID "ACCORDING TO THIS ARTICLE", NOT MY OWN OPINION! DON'T SUE ME!)

According to THIS article, I'm wondering who in the world would set a fishstore on fire?
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Old 02-01-2004, 10:16 PM
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Seth, my friend, you are still missing the entire point. There is a fine line in these cases and some would argue that your statements have crossed that line.

"haha i'm betting it was some plot to claim insurance money" - Seth

In another post, which has since been self-deleted, you indicated that torching a business is what an individual does when they are in financial trouble. Public posts like this, IMO, casts a dim shadow on the owner of the aquarium store prior to a conclusion of the fire investigation.

Be careful in what you say (or post) as yes we have freedom of speech, BUT with responsibility.
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Old 02-01-2004, 11:57 PM
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ok thanks for the heads up saltcreep
i guess i'll keep these "extreme" opinions to myself next time
but it is still very suspicious which the article stated
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Old 02-02-2004, 12:12 AM
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Despite what news papers tell us, there is a fair amount of speculation in reporting. Seth, and everyone else involved needs to consider that "We" don't know for sure what happened. Maybes, I bets and I wonders all lead to opinions being made against people and businesses that aren't always correct.
Doug Lowey's comment about this being a private board is correct. If someone comes into your home and says something that you don't approve of, or if they use your property (to be more precise) to run a slander campaign against someone it's your right as the owner or caretaker of the property to ask them to stop. From what I've seen Titus hasn't said anything but Doug is a staff member of the board, if you think Doug is wrong send him an email but, free speach on public property is well and fine, on private property it's at the owners discretion or the owners representitives discretion. Is there anything constructive on this thread? (okay not all posts are contructive but come on..)

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Old 02-10-2004, 07:49 PM
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Saltcreep

Only 2 "BUT"'s in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom, that is not one of them.

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Old 02-10-2004, 09:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saltcreep
People...I am just trying to play devil's advocate and save some possible grief for everyone involved.
I've seen you say this on a couple occasions saltcreep, and I'm beginning to wonder if you acutally have valuable content to contribute to this forum, or if you are just here to troll for reactions and irratants?

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If you don't think it can happen in Canada, dig your head out of the sand. I will ask you to look at;

www.petswarehouse.com

Tell me what you think and how it is relevent to this discussion. There are many parallels. By the way, I believe that defamation of character or slander can easily get you in a heap of trouble in this country.
Firstly, there is NO correlation between what happens in the US legal system and the Canadian one. They are completely independant systems with vast differences in both criminal and civil law. Based on your assumption does that mean that because a convicted criminal is executed in Texas that now Canadian courts will start ordering executions because "a precedence has been set in the US courts"? Dig YOUR head out of the sand.

Secondly, the guy instigating those lawsuits in the US is a f#$'n moron. He deserves everything he gets in counter-suits and frankly I find it amusing that he's filed for bankrupcy. I'm sure he could have dealt with the entire situation in a more reasonable maner, but due to the litigious nature of Americans he decided to try to get the courts to provide him financial compensation for his (Quote) "headaches, nausea, nervousness, anxiety, embarrassment, humiliation and mental distress".

While I'm not one for defaming, embarrasing or otherwise demeaning anyone on this or any other forum, I do believe that I am entitled to my "opinion" and as long as my "opinion" does not cause anyone financial or physical harm or violates any Canadian law I say we should all be allowed to speak our minds.

And ditto to Wendell's comments, I don't recall seeing that "But" in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms either.
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Old 02-10-2004, 09:56 PM
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This thread was dead for 9 days and I think it was better that way. If anyone thinks the Charter is a good topic, please create a new thread in the lounge.

This thread asked if a place burned down... Yes, it did. Let it go.
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