Moorish Idol x 2 discussion thread

[christyf5]

Originally Posted by UnderWorldAquatics

can someone dig up my old thread on how to get these guys to eat....
goniaporia(good spelling) is a sinch too....

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...highlight=idol

[jslaney]

He is exactly right. If you try and save a fish from the LFS tank all you are doing is encouraging the LFS to buy more, thereby causing more overall suffering.

I know it is incredibly difficult to pass up some of the beautiful animals that come through the LFS but we have a responsibility too.

Think spider mans motto.

There is a link somewhere on canreef that states the commonly availible tank raised fish. I think that is the direction that we, as responsible salties, should be going.

I dont blame anyone for getting that rare fish, because I have done it myself but overall we should try not too.

My 2 cents

[Renegade]

the problem is most fish store don't order them. They order a dollar value worth of fish and that order is filled by whatever means possible. thats why these guys are not horribly over priced at pets store b/c they are "price to sell" NOT turn profit.

Kyle

but unfortunately once in captivity theres not much we can do but let them die @ the fish store or perhaps.

[EmilyB]

One will inevitably kill the other. Any research will point to this.

GETTING them to eat is all fine and dandy, it's the fact that CORAL is a part of their natural diet.

I think Sam will agree, we had luck with Moo because she was in a reef tank. She died very shortly after all that changed for her.

[dunl]

Originally Posted by naesco

It is completely understandable why some reefers get upset when they read Moorish Idol threads.

Understandable, yes, but it's not understandable to jump into someone's buy/sell thread and hijack it.

Originally Posted by UnderWorldAquatics

can someone dig up my old thread on how to get these guys to eat....
goniaporia(good spelling) is a sinch too....

I guess my whole post didnt go through... there was more than that....lol
too lazy to type it out again... dig up some of the old threads on goniaporia if you want to know how to keep them, its been covered well if I remember correctly

[EmilyB]

Originally Posted by dunl

Understandable, yes, but it's not understandable to jump into someone's buy/sell thread and hijack it.

I don't view it that way I guess. The worst thing possible for those fish would have been someone to just buy the two of them and not know. He should take them back to the store, I agree.

[dunl]

Then perhaps posting some well thought out advice might have gone over smoother.

[BCOrchidGuy]

I believe she just did, 20 years ago, people barely knew how to keep marine fish alive in captivity, corals would surely die a slow death if we attempted to keep them in an aquarium. Research and experimentation have gotten us to the point where we can keep a number of corals in our tanks, some are still very hard to keep, gorgonians for example as well as goniapora. As someone (I believe it was Drew) pointed out, as long as we are willing to do specific tasks that will increase the life expectancy of a coral or fish then we should be able to keep them. Someone else mentioned that most or a lot of fish stores don't order fish they just say, send us a dollar amount but I don't beleive that's accurate, what does happen though is fish are ordered and if not available the supplier "MAY" send other fish to make up the dollar amount for a couple reasons. The LFS still has to pay for the permits ($85/box I believe) regardless of how much the value of the fish is or are. The supplier also wants to get paid the full amount for filling the order, it makes sense to send what you have rather than keep it and hope someone else will buy it when you can send it off and be rid of it. Yes that's a cold attitude but that's the way it is.
I can honestly say, every time someone here has said, "this fish/coral/invert/sock is impossible to keep" someone else has come along and said, "I've done it" we've all had to shake our heads at one of these posts at least. Some fish are harder to keep than others, some are damn near impossible to keep, trigger fish are going to eat live rock, they don't know if that rock has a bit of hair algae on it or some super rare encrusting gorgoniagoniaporacapricornus, they eat rock and as the saying goes, if it looks like crap, smells like crap and taste like crap, obviously it's haggis. Fish do what comes naturally to them. If it's their nature to feed on corals they will.

I'll pass the soap box off to who ever is next in line

Doug

[Ticketyboo]

hey!!!!!!! whats wrong with haggis????????????????