Hardiest Tang?

[OCDP]

Mark. The difference is that I AM doing my research on this anemone. I would give you every right to get on my case if I had purchased this anemone first, then came to the canreefers for input. That would be totally my fault. But how can you get on my case when I am doing everything by the books? I am reading a ton of information, and asking a ton of questions before the anemone is brought to me. I have always loved anemones and I have had great success with the ones I have kept thus far. I know this thread has gone off topic, but oh well. I want to prove that I do my research and read before I purhcase livestock.

Also, I don't have daily change of plans.. I never had plans set in stone in the first place, so I am not sure where your coming from. I am simply playing with dimensions. I have apologized for my lack of communication.

And I have to ask. Why is it so bad that I do plan on buying this anemone on a specific date from a specific person? What does that have to do with anything? I gave myself a whole week to do research and gather as much info as possible. I am trying my best to gain as much information as possible. I have posted questions on wet web media, Reef central, and Canreef. So, I'd really like to know why you think this is such a big deal that I have a "verbal contract commitment" ? I think a lot of us have verbal contract commitments on Canreef. We made the arrangement for drop-off on Monday (the seller just happens to be in the area that morning). I'm just not sure what the big deal is here that's all... and just to prove I AM doing research and gaining some information here.. here are a few links I posted yesterday on RC : http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=885123

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=885121

I also have a question posted and replied by Bob Fenner on S. Haddoni. I can't give a direct link as it's all on one page of questions. Here's another great resource I gained for information on S. Haddoni.

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/carpetanemones.htm

[naesco]

IMO the obvious choice for a suitable ized tank is the yellow tang for the following reasons.
1. they are cheap and readily available so that you can choose a alert, fat, healthy one with clear eyes, free of spots or tears or reddening. One that is as interested in you as you are in it.
2. They are from Hawaii. Too many tangs are from the Philippines and Indonesia where the use of cyanide is rampant.
3. Provided that they are not in the same tank as one of their species or another yellow shaped fish like a lemon angel, they are relatively peaceful.
4. Feeding is easy and inexpensive. Nori soake with garlic extract and or selcon from time to time.
5. Although many have 'black ich", you can see it on the fish and it is treatable with a fresh water dip.

[seashells]

Hey Scott
I thought your question was very clear. You did not mention anything regarding tank size, just for the home aquarium. You wanted to know which tangs in other owners opinions were the most hardy. I guess the home aquarium can be anything from a 5gal nano to a 1000 gal setup or however much bling you have. IMO I think the yellow sailfin is pretty hardy. Your final choice should you decide on adding a tang will likely come down to tank size.

Doug

[Johnny Reefer]

Yes, I know you are doing research and that's great.
Maybe I'm missing something and didn't read the thread on this correctly, but it seemed to me that you arranged with the seller to purchase the anemone before you started the research. Even though the transaction wasn't complete, the arrangement is the verbal contract. And we all know how everyone feels about people backing out of deals. So, in my mind, it's no different really than if the transaction was complete. If a person says to another that they are going to buy something from them, then they have essentially bought it, IMO. I would have done the research first, then made the arrangement. If that meant it would've been too late....then I'd be patient and wait for another opportunity, or look at ordering one from my LFS.

As well, now correct me if I am wrong, but did you not buy an anemone some months back (about 8 or 10 months ago) without even knowing what kind of anemone it was? I recall there being a thread regarding your research toward finding out the type of an anemone you had bought locally by way of a private sale. Research done after the fact. I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but take a mental note of this. I hope you can understand that this caused me to suspect a pattern.

So long story short....these are observations that I've had and maybe I'm totally out to lunch on all of it and if so then I apologize profusely. It's a complicated hobby and I can understand the temptation to "jump the gun" so to speak. Patience is a virtue in this hobby.

I also want to say that we CanReefers like to help each other out and sometimes it is hard to help when we feel we have to bite our tongues regarding topics of a sensitive nature. Having said that....I realize you are doing the research. I just think the timing of your research is a little off, that's all.

So please take this as constructive critizism. You've asked where I'm coming from and I've told you. I could have just as easily have ignored this and gone on with my day. Like I said, maybe I'm the only one with these observations and am totally out of place and if so...my humble apologies to you. And it's not meant to be personal either. I am sure you are a fine person and it is clear that you are well liked by many CanReefers.
Actually, if I may attempt to end this on a positive, I like the "HaHa's" you put into your posts. I know other people do it, but you have a knack for doing it that adds a cheery persona to your character.

Cheers,

[Willow]

you would be hard pressed to find a hardier tang than a yellow, kole or scopas. out of those 3 the kole will actively hunt, clean rocks and glass looking for algae. all 3 should also cost less than 30 bucks just about anywhere.

[OCDP]

PM Sent.

And just to clarify so the rest know full well here.

I never purchased that BTA without knowing what it was. It was sold as a BTA, and I knew full well it was BTA. Once I posted pictures of it, others started pointing out that it resembles a Ritteri (because of the shapes of the tentacles). It was other peoples posts that started to make me think otherwise. I was cofident it was a BTA, just one variety I have never seen much of .

I understand where your coming from now on the whole "make the arrangements to buy it, then research" Well, that's not the whole deal on this.. I mean, I am technically not doing anything wrong here.. and am making damn sure I know how to take care of this thing. I mean, how much can a person read on a single species of anemone? I think 7 days is plenty. I have been reading constantly... and all my readings now are starting to sound the same.. I think I have read more than enough. I don't think S. Haddoni is all that hard to care for, I think they have a low survival rate due to reefers lack of research . Lack of research leads to lack of neccessary requirements ,etc... I meet all the requirements (other than the temporary 20g) Anywhoo, we'll keep this out of the thread now...

No hard feelings... I was tired, no coffee, no cig, no breakfast ...that's most likely why my lack of communication and defensiveness came into play. My apologies once again.

Scott

[OCDP]

Thanks for the post Willow. Those Kole tangs are beauties.. and the fact that they hunt and help clean the rocks is an added bonus for reefers I suppose.

Scopas are yet another beautiful Tang. (They're all nice looking fish really) Cool body colouration.

[Willow]

Originally Posted by OCDP

Thanks for the post Willow. Those Kole tangs are beauties.. and the fact that they hunt and help clean the rocks is an added bonus for reefers I suppose.

Scopas are yet another beautiful Tang. (They're all nice looking fish really) Cool body colouration.

if you want a really cool kole look for a blue eyed one, they are from the indian ocean i think, they have poka dots instead of stripes. very cool personalities.

[rickjames]

Originally Posted by OCDP

When I say "hardy" I mean... less prone to ick or parasites, isn't skittish and gets along with tank mates, eats well, etc..

I have only had one tang, a Sohal, and I can attest his hardyness. Isn't skittish at all, in fact, sometimes i give him a swat on the tail when i am playing in the tank because he won't get out of my way!

As for getting along with tank mates, umm, just fine if you only want one tang . But the way I think of it is, would you rather have 2-3 Hyundais or one Ferrari?

If we are talking about hardiest and aquarium suitability though, I would say the yellow tang or the scopas wins hands down.

[danny zubot]

would you rather have 2-3 Hyundais or one Ferrari?

If a Sohal is a farrari, then what is a Regal, or a Naso?

I sense a new debate coming on!!!!