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Old 07-06-2005, 11:05 PM
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Oh and btw parasites do not dilute in water..
No, really? duhhhh.
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Old 07-06-2005, 11:08 PM
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lol we are talking one anemone, getting put back into trillions of gallons of water...... i'm pretty sure there is enough dilution going on....
It only takes 1 cell infected with the HIV virus to kill you. How many millions of cells are in your body?

edit: sorry, I see you've been bashed about that already, heh. didn't see the "page 2" part when I was replying.
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Old 07-06-2005, 11:23 PM
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lol we are talking one anemone, getting put back into trillions of gallons of water...... i'm pretty sure there is enough dilution going on....
It only takes 1 cell infected with the HIV virus to kill you. How many millions of cells are in your body?

edit: sorry, I see you've been bashed about that already, heh. didn't see the "page 2" part when I was replying.
i actually wasnt thinking along the lines of parasites when i typed the dilution thing. i still think it would take a hell of alot more then one parasite on an anemone to do have any serious effects.

might as well just agree to disagree on this matter.
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Old 07-07-2005, 07:20 AM
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Ok every body looks like there are people here that are mad at me taking the local wild life out of the water and then there are some that think is ok. I'm not saying what I did was right but at the same time don't you think we are all guilty of taking these little life out of their homes and put them in some where they don't belong just to satisfy our wants?

What is the difference of me taking a life from my local water compaired to some third world under paid person that is working in dangers enviorment using drugs or nets to catch these little lifes and then sending them on a 24-48hr flight where more then 30% will die then end up at our local fish store? The way I look at it is at least I only have to transport 5 min instead of 24-48hr and I did my home work and took a calculative risk compaired to some people that just walks in to a store and buys corls or fish when they don't have the right setup.

Have you looked in to the local fish store's tank the day after they recived a new shippment? Why don't you try to count the dead fish?

There is no way any one can justfy that they are not leaving an eco foot print with this hubby. So don't try to sound like you care. If you realy do then take down your tank.
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Old 07-07-2005, 07:42 AM
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Hi danny zubot here is a little info on the setup:

I started the Anamos in a 10gal with a ph of 7.9 since my local sea water was at this level. I transported 10gal of the local sea water with the 10gal RO water bottles. This way there won't be any stress on the Ananos.

Rased the temp with in 3 month from 15c to 25c and also increased the ph with in this time as well. Water change was done once every 3 weeks. The filer system was the Eclips hood (filter with bio wheel) so there was not very high flow of water. Lighting was a 10 watt blue light from Walmart and it did very well. One thing about these ananos is that they don't like strong light so they will move in to shad area's if you have strong light.

I feed them clames, fish, squid and shirmp. They seems to eat every thing and if they don't like it they will just spit it out. I have one pink tiped two green with red tip. The pink tiped started about 1inch fully opened and now it has grown to 3inch and split twice. The green colored ones also started around 1inch and now is about 2inch. The green ones didn't grow too much but they started to have white round tips all around the out side wich is very pertty. The green ones split about twice now I think.

So now they are in my temp tank since I'm moving. It's a 20gal reef. There is a clown, dorf yellow angle, cleanner shirp, some hermit crabs and sails and a red star fish. They all get alone. Some times the yellow angle will nib at the ananos but that's realy all.

I just added a new pice of rock in the tank and it is blocking the light from one of the green and red tiped ananos and I have noticed the green color is fadding. I guess there is not enough light but the anano is not moving so I guess he is still liking the spot.

Any more question? Let me know.
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Old 07-07-2005, 07:47 AM
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Old 07-07-2005, 07:52 AM
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Obviously, the anemones are not going back into the sea. Chill.
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One point that was missed here is whether it is legal to take anemones off the beach. All marine life is protected by the department of fisheries and oceans so I would check the regulations before picking one of the beach, or dubbing them free anemones.

At the very least you probably need a salt water fishing license to take one.

You missed one point regarding your argument vs. local wildlife/tropical wildlife. The majority of us try to mimic our livestocks natural location to the best of our abilities. Keeping an local anemone used to cold water in a 75 degree tank is hardly doing that.

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You missed one point regarding your argument vs. local wildlife/tropical wildlife. The majority of us try to mimic our livestocks natural location to the best of our abilities. Keeping an local anemone used to cold water in a 75 degree tank is hardly doing that.
I don't think a glass box is quite replicating their natural habitat. That would be like sticking us in a glass room, and putting a few trees and some grass in it, and calling it a replica of our natural habitat.

We've done so much already to destroy the world we live in, which I believe is inevitable fate anyways, so really, I don't think it matters much to the world if someone nabs an anemone out of the ocean and climatises it to live in warmer water inside a glass box.

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There is no way any one can justfy that they are not leaving an eco foot print with this hubby. So don't try to sound like you care. If you realy do then take down your tank.
couldn't have said it better.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:23 PM
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Ok every body looks like there are people here that are mad at me taking the local wild life out of the water and then there are some that think is ok. I'm not saying what I did was right but at the same time don't you think we are all guilty of taking these little life out of their homes and put them in some where they don't belong just to satisfy our wants?

What is the difference of me taking a life from my local water compaired to some third world under paid person that is working in dangers enviorment using drugs or nets to catch these little lifes and then sending them on a 24-48hr flight where more then 30% will die then end up at our local fish store? The way I look at it is at least I only have to transport 5 min instead of 24-48hr and I did my home work and took a calculative risk compaired to some people that just walks in to a store and buys corls or fish when they don't have the right setup.

Have you looked in to the local fish store's tank the day after they recived a new shippment? Why don't you try to count the dead fish?

There is no way any one can justfy that they are not leaving an eco foot print with this hubby. So don't try to sound like you care. If you realy do then take down your tank.
If this was aimed at me...
I never said I was mad at you for taking local wild anemones for your tank. In fact I don't have a problem with it as long as it is legal to do so. The only point I was really trying to stress was now that you have taken an anemone out of the local ocean (and kept it in your tank along with life from Tropical Oceans) was to please please do not put it back in the wild.
If not I still said my piece...
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