Off leash parks - what's with people?!

[Dabbler]

In all the stories that I read the dogs are running free, you very rarly read about a dog mauling someone when he is on a leash So where would you start the "bred ban" Dogs over 150 lbs or 100lbs or 75lbs or even 35lbs. What constutes a harmfull bred? I have see some very mean toy poodles that could take a "chunk" out of your leg. They are know to have a temper.

There are bull dogs they are in the small dog catagory I think but very powerfull and they can take a person down and they come in around 20-30 lbs

You also have medium size dogs like kashound (sp) not a musle dog but still strong enuf to take a person down and they are also fast on there paws

I have a 120 lb Bull Mastiff and I would trust him (and I do) with my kids before a toy poodle. They rode him like a pony, they slid on him off the couch like a slide and he didn't even bat an eye. You come up to my fence and he will stare you in the face and scare the pants right off of you and you would not step foot in my yard or house. The worst thing he has done is steal a hotdog out of my kids hands ( when they were 3 or 4 ...can't remember)and left his slimy calling card .

I also beleve that people should be accountable for there pets. In most (99%) the stories that I read the dogs are running free, you very rarly read about a dog mauling someone when he is on a leash

So where I am going with this, any dog givin the right training can either kill a person or love his owner with all his heart.


Now you want to see an aggressive pet...... give a cat a bath

[marie]

All dogs have the same jaw pressure no matter what the size, if it has teeth it can bite. If you ban large aggressive breeds, the people that have "bad" rotts will have a pack of nasty cocker spaniels instead. It should be all about MAKING people accountable for their pets actions including jail time should it prove neccesary.

[LostMind]

Honestly, what I think should happen is licensing of some sort being a requirement before dog ownership. It's not the dog's fault, its the owners fault. Poor training, poor socialisation create the problem.

Saying you can't own a certain breed of dog because they are large is like saying you cant own a big truck or a suv or a fast car because a little hybrid is fast enough for our speed limits.

Imagine you were required to pass an exam for having kids? That'd be awesome </sarcasm>

[AndyL]

What a tangent this thread has taken... Go from whining/complaining about inconsiderate dog owners to breed bans.

FWIW - even as a dog owner - I do support a breed ban on Pitbulls - I was on the receiving end of a pitbull attack. If you've ever seen one go on the attack up close and personal - you'd understand my posiition - the one who attacked me ended up with 3rd degree burns on his paws (hot exhaust of landscaping equipment), broken ribs (courtesy of my steel toes), a separated shoulder (jumping off the roof of the shed). And he still cleared an 8' fence and nearly ran me and the neighbour down before we could get in the safety of his house. For me, it was a few days in hospital a couple skin grafts, and a 100 or so stitches.

At the court proceedings - those owners had dozens of witnesses about how wonderful he was; and how he'd never hurt a fly. Show dog, well trained, well kept - still a vicious animal.

There are some breeds that have just had too much aggression bred into them, and that breeding still continues today (Pit bulls are still used for their "Intended" purpose even to this day - if you don't believe me - there's some writeups on the ASPCA website about dog fights).

I can't say I've ever met anyone afraid of my pup - but he's so cute, you just can't be afraid of him.

Andy

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by reef_raf

Ya, I have an Akita, same thing. Everyone has heard about how Akitas are agressive on the news, and how they eat every other animal they can catch. .

and they made the list of top 10 deadly dogs also that was on TLC about 3 weeks ago (think they were number 4 or 5)

but as the show also emphasized, that anyone who buys a large breed and especially one that has a tendency to be over protective weather it is against humans who it doesn't know or other dogs, also has a huge responsibility to take the time and train it properly. this also doesn't mean taking it to a bunch of classes but to continue to work with the dog and maintain its training through out its life.

Steve

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by marie

All dogs have the same jaw pressure no matter what the size, if it has teeth it can bite. If you ban large aggressive breeds, the people that have "bad" rotts will have a pack of nasty cocker spaniels instead. It should be all about MAKING people accountable for their pets actions including jail time should it prove neccesary.

Not true Rottys have the strongest jaws for a dog I cannot remeber the LBS/squar inch but it was unreal.

Why ban a breed. Just make laws saying they have to be muzzled. Here in Taber there are 5 breeds that when taken out of your yard you have to be 16 or over, the dog has to be muzzled, and the leash cannot suceed 6 feet in length. But still you hear of dog attacks. It is Dumb a$$ people who lose a ball in someones back yard dont see the dog and jump in. The dog is only doing what it is suposed to be doing, Gaurding the house. Now dont get me wrong there are dogs out there that would nab you if you were walking down the street. I live on the edge of a school feild. If you came running up to my back fence my setter would bark snarl but wont bite if you jumped over but this is because of the hours and hours of training i have put into her to teach her not to do this. It is people who think it is cool to have a breed that will attack other dogs and children.

Some dogs brains also get too large for their head, rotty for example, and the dog goes nuts not the person or the dogs fault it just happens.

When people come to my house they see my setter which stands 30 inches and are scared to death of it, They then see my pom 12 inches high and love her. I love to see the looks on thier faces when i tell them to watch out she bites and the big one dont. I would rather have my setter around kids than the pom. Size dont matter in the dog neither does the breed it is the owner and the type of training they put into the dog that "makes" the animal.
Over all what i am saying is take the time train the dog properly, Put it away if someone asks you. If you dont like dogs stay away from off leash parks.

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by Ryan

Some dogs brains also get too large for their head, rotty for example, and the dog goes nuts not the person or the dogs fault it just happens.

thats a myth, not true. they turn bad because people don't continue the training and atention.

Steve

[G1GY]

Originally Posted by trilinearmipmap

I don't quite understand the anger at my post.

Certain breeds are clearly large enough, strong enough, and aggressive enough to easily kill a man. If a pit bull got hold of me I would not have a chance unless I were carrying a weapon. What is so wrong with me wanting to protect my children, ages 1, 3, and 5?

There's absollutly nothing wrong with protecting your children.(You'd be a poor example of a parent if you didn't.)

BUT!!!

Should the rest of the world not keep large breed dogs so you have peace of mind? After all you are teaching your children to stay clear of stray's and property with dogs on it, aren't you? (I don't know about you, but my kids do not trust any strange dog, large or small.)

Do you think it's our governments job to make sure I don't have a dog that could be possibly mean tempered on my property or in my home?(Just to apease a very fickle minority)

I for one don't think so.

FYI, keeping your children safe also involves teaching them to avoid all dangers(including dogs) and knowing where they are every minute of every day untill your 100% sure that they've learned these things that you've taught them.

I'm not going to speak my mind as I normaly would because I have a tendancy to ruin a thread when I do so.

I just hope that your opinion isn't shared by our lawmakers.

I can tell you this as a parent and a Rottweiler owner. No matter what our lawmakers and government say, the only way they will ever get me to give up my dog is to pull the leash out of my cold dead hand!

Have a nice day.

[Ryan]

THis thread is everywhere first from off leash parks to what breeds are dangerous to why dogs attack to being a good parent.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by G1GY

No matter what our lawmakers and government say, the only way they will ever get me to give up my dog is to pull the leash out of my cold dead hand!

I second that.