Herbie Help

[Skimmin]

Say what u want but i've had numerous tanks with herbies, no ato and no problem keeping them quiet. A valve will make all the difference because the fluctuation in the return compartment is now irrelevant because of the back pressure caused by the valve. A valve does nothing to change the speed of the pump. I'm not sure where u got that from... It just gives it a consistent restriction to pump against... Anyways... I'm not here for a debate. I'm just offering suggestions for duncan.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by Skimmin

Say what u want but i've had numerous tanks with herbies, no ato and no problem keeping them quiet. A valve will make all the difference because the fluctuation in the return compartment is now irrelevant because of the back pressure caused by the valve. A valve does nothing to change the speed of the pump. I'm not sure where u got that from... It just gives it a consistent restriction to pump against... Anyways... I'm not here for a debate. I'm just offering suggestions for duncan.

Yeah your right , since it works for you it must work universally for everyone as is the law of reef and you've def got more experience then me from what I can tell , if that's what we're gong by lol pay no attention that several people have pointed it out as well but when your right your right , right?;p

Would be simple enough to test .......fill return chamber , set herbie , let chamber drain , see if herbie stays set....easy peasy

[duncangweller]

Thanks for everyone's advice. I am taking it all on board and will get on it at the weekend. Watch this space

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[duncangweller]

I am really getting peed off with my Herbie. Like I said I have never had these problems before. I cannot make an adjustment small enough to get the level to settle.

I have tried keeping the return level the same in my sump ans it still fluctuates. I've tried running a trickle down the return and its too noisy.

What the hell!

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[HaZRaTTy]

Do you have a gate valve or ball valve. I'm assuming you have a ball valve. Somehow I lucked out with my first tank with a Herbie and was able to tune with the ball valve.

Current build I needed to get a gate valve to make smaller adjustments.

You could also try not running your emergency straight down so the water doesn't have do far to fall which is most likely where your sound is coming from.

Can you post a picture of all your plumbing and maybe a short video may help to get a better picture of what you're dealing with.

[duncangweller]

I'll take a few more pics when I've calmed down. I have a gate valve. The same Gaye valve I have used previously. It just baffles me how its not working properly. The setup has been taken from my previous tank, exactly the same way and I didn't tinkle with the valve for a year with that one.

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[gregzz4]

Heya Dunc

What have you done about an ATO on this tank ?

Besides that dead horse;

One thing you could try would be to put a 'tee' with a gate valve on the return pump, and have it dump back into the sump.
I had to do this with my current setup as the plumbing doesn't allow for my pump to run full-out.

Instead of tuning my drain, I tune my return. It's been flawless for 2-1/2 years and my pump isn't strained with any restrictions.

The only time I have to fiddle with it is when either the pump intake strainer gets mucked up, or if I've had my arms in the water for awhile and the displacement messes with things.

Maybe one day I'll bump up my drain plumbing from 1" to 1-1/2" ...

[CM125]

Did we ever find the answer for this?

[duncangweller]

Hi,

Yeah I did. I've been keeping up with topping up my sump and it keeps the level more even. Even though, sometimes if I'm away for a couple of days and I don't top up my sump, the level in the overflow stays level. Its like it just settled or something.

Any who, all sorted. Thanks for everyone's help. I am going to set up an ATO in the new year when I get some money again.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by duncangweller

Hi,

Yeah I did. I've been keeping up with topping up my sump and it keeps the level more even. Even though, sometimes if I'm away for a couple of days and I don't top up my sump, the level in the overflow stays level. Its like it just settled or something.

Any who, all sorted. Thanks for everyone's help. I am going to set up an ATO in the new year when I get some money again.

its a common issue , def gets annoying

are you using just straight stand pipes or do you have durso's , stockman etc ?