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12-16-2013, 09:37 PM
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I believe Krysztof is using the NaCL free salts from Fauna Marin.
I am not sure if its the "full" balling method, I would have to look back to see if he is using the Trace B set for his balling salts. Trace B are the trace elements for the Balling method that Fauna has been perfecting over the last like 10 years that they have had it on the market. Fauna has had the NACL free salt mixes available on the market for years and years and years now. In fact they were distributed by someone on Canreef and hailed as the best of the best at that time! But times change. We no longer use undergravel trickle filters. Most people anyways no longer use counter current skimmers driven by wooden air stones (although they do actually work well as i am sure anyone that has been around for long enough can attest to). Sure these technologies worked at the time, but we have since found better ways to enjoy our hobby. Dont get me wrong, I am not saying the Full balling Method from TMC doesnt work. I am sure it does. But to post and say the 2 part and balling light are cut down version that will cause an ionic imbalance that will somehow cause harm is a complete pile of BS. Fauna Has the Full Balling Method. We have it in stock. Including the NACL free salts. It collects a LOT of dust though as pretty much everyone has switch to the Balling Light method. Read in the thread on the zeo forums, multiple people posted on there outlining how most people use the Balling Light method. And TONS of people have achieved amazing results with the Bulk additives and using the 2 part method. Bulk additives are not my preference but lots of people have good results! If either of these system created some type of problem I am pretty sure with the thousands and thousands of people using them we would have heard about it by now. Any of these methods are just tools in a tool box. If you want a nice tank the biggest thing is how you use them!!! At RW we use the Fauna Marin Balling Light system. And we feel we have PERSONALLY achieved pretty good results with it! Here is a pic of a pretty sweet sps in our system:
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12-16-2013, 09:41 PM
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Hey tony,
Thanks for clearing that up as it was confusing having same thread posted for 2 different products. He does say he did noticebetter results when he was using the full balling method with NACL free salt vs the lite balling method...regardless of which salt he was using. To me it seems more advantageous to use the balling system as designed originally. I don't want to have to and don't think you should have to play chemist with another product to make it have same results as the original. The lite version seems to miss out the whole principle of the balling system which is plain and simple to refresh the system with all the trace elements found in modern sea salt while keeping an ionic balanced state.
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12-16-2013, 10:05 PM
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Would love for you to share. I'm not trying to start a debate as to what product is better. It's the method of balling that's being questioned. Seems much simpler and less confusing to dose 3 things and get it right vs dosing more then 3 and having to try get things balanced yourself.
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12-16-2013, 10:41 PM
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When Coral Coloration Matters; Fauna Marin Balling Light
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12-16-2013, 11:57 PM
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12-17-2013, 12:41 AM
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I'm tagging along as well, how do these results work in a new tank for example my tank is pretty young and I do 25% WC ever 2 weeks most sps are frags or mini colony's and most LPS are medium to big colony's I haven't (yet) had a problem maintaining mag alk or calcium and low po4 and nitrates in between WCs,
Would these systems not be used untill a semi mature tank or
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12-17-2013, 04:35 AM
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We actually understand the chemistry we are talking about here. Dont get me wrong, I am no RHF. I am def not a chemist! But i did take more than enough chemistry in university to understand this basic reef chemistry and we have backed it up with years and years of experience. We have actually run ALL of the methods we are talking about. FULL Balling Balling Light 2 Part (well technically 3 part, with the Mg) Calcium reactors (single stage and double) Kalk reactors and just about every additive system and brand on the market. Well maybe not all of em, now we can generally look at a product and we know what it is. I am sure anyone that has played around with bulk Ca will recognize the round Ca pellets used by many brands. No webinar required either. We sell the product we believe in. Not "believe" in the products we sell!
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12-16-2013, 11:05 PM
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When Coral Coloration Matters; Fauna Marin Balling Light
With FM you are dosing 5 things for the balling method correct?
With TM you only have 3 because the part " c " contains all the extra goodies that come in FM extra bottles. Last edited by uniboob; 12-16-2013 at 11:13 PM.
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