Water clarity/coraline bleaching issue Be aware

[Ya Dude]

Wooh Narvarchus.thats too kind of you.Just post a link these guys arent going to respect your time or Knowledge

[spawn]

+1

[Ya Dude]

see what I mean

[abcha0s]

Narvarchus - Awesome post! I learned a few things. Thank you.

Personally, I do respect your time and knowledge. If you do post again on this subject, I will read what you have to say.

One question regarding carbon dosing - Considering an SPS dominated tank - In an established tank there is lots of naturally occurring food sources for coral to eat. This can also be supplemented by feeding various coral foods. However, in a newly established tank, many of the naturally occurring foods may not be present. Do you think it is risky to run any low nutrient system on a new tank?

- Brad

[Navarchus]

Thank you.

This issue regarding using LNR (low nutrients regime) in a new tank regardless the method (vsv, kz or funaa) is that of coral growth. Usually when using LNR you combine it with specific water parameters in order to suppress the growth on the account of colors. New tanks are usually dominated by frags so growth is important factor.

To my friends I recommend to grow with the system, get the experience and knowhow and let the coral population establish it self before you start tweaking with the colors.

But in the case that you are an experience reefer and know your way around, there is no problem to do so as long you keep feeding your bacteria and corals, in that case I would probably go with some brand instead of going homemade.

One more tip:
When establishing new tank I am always using some Phosphate observing media from day one in order to prevent phosphate to accumulate in my tank.

[paddyob]

Originally Posted by abcha0s

Narvarchus - Awesome post! I learned a few things. Thank you.

Personally, I do respect your time and knowledge. If you do post again on this subject, I will read what you have to say.

One question regarding carbon dosing - Considering an SPS dominated tank - In an established tank there is lots of naturally occurring food sources for coral to eat. This can also be supplemented by feeding various coral foods. However, in a newly established tank, many of the naturally occurring foods may not be present. Do you think it is risky to run any low nutrient system on a new tank?

- Brad

+1. A lot of info in there. You might read it over again Narv... but I also may have to!

Thanks for taking the time.

[ALang]

Originally Posted by abcha0s

Narvarchus - Awesome post! I learned a few things. Thank you.

Personally, I do respect your time and knowledge. If you do post again on this subject, I will read what you have to say.

One question regarding carbon dosing - Considering an SPS dominated tank - In an established tank there is lots of naturally occurring food sources for coral to eat. This can also be supplemented by feeding various coral foods. However, in a newly established tank, many of the naturally occurring foods may not be present. Do you think it is risky to run any low nutrient system on a new tank?

- Brad

+1. Thanks for your time, ans I will read it several times over, too.
Please elaborate on sps feeding. You mentioned amino acids, what about higher loads of fish waste, would that count as well? Keeping in mind that regular water changes and nutrient dilution is important as well. Thanks.
Please keep this up when you can. Most of us are still learning, and those others who know-it-all don't need to bother

[spawn]

Hi Brad
I'm far from an expert, but for my 1st setup, being sps dom. has been alot of work & reading to say the least. I don't get much info here, I find there are way to many different opinions. I've searched for most of my info before starting anything on google & several other sites. I am trying to run a LNS & I do have both good growth(from almost exclusively stocking frags) & what I & others would call great coloration. I do feed/supplement 5 KZ products daily @ full recommended amounts. Here's the best part, I'm doing it in a RSM 250 where the only thing's I've added are lot's of flow, & recently a better light, but other than that it's stock. It's not got the best skimmer, but it pulls out shiz. All of the bigger & better stuff will come when I build my next setup. If you want to know what I'm dosing, or other questions PM me.
After this I'm done on this thread, because originally I posted about myself being more diligent in doing regular water changes from the sump, because I didn't & it affected (in my opinion) my coraline algae as a result of an acute change in water clarity. I thought that maybe sharing that info may help someone else, as lazy about water changes as myself.
Now it's turned into a different, but equally helpful thread about feeding your tank in an uln setup that only hints about specific parameters & remembering that you will have to feed your corals or they'll turn a yucky brown or else they just won't grow. So DYODD.

Originally Posted by abcha0s

One question regarding carbon dosing - Considering an SPS dominated tank - In an established tank there is lots of naturally occurring food sources for coral to eat. This can also be supplemented by feeding various coral foods. However, in a newly established tank, many of the naturally occurring foods may not be present. Do you think it is risky to run any low nutrient system on a new tank?

- Brad

[Navarchus]

Dear spown,
I am truly sorry you feel that way. I didn’t mean to snatch your “tree” that’s why I have asked if you want me to elaborate. I didn’t mean any harm. You have maid an observation and I tried to put in some info based on my experience. I think that is the purpose of the forum, no?

Anyways I do sincerely apologize if I made uncomfortable.

One correction, though….if you don’t feed your corals they wont become brown but rather white….from bleaching duo to starvation.

If you want specific parameters fell free to ask, but I found that Salinity around 33,
7dKH and 400 ppm and MG 1280 will usually do the trick for getting better colors. But I have also found out that corals raised in that manner are not very healthy and are very delicate and fragile, since it is too hard for the coral to precipitate CA; it is almost as the coral in hollow from the inside.

[daniella3d]

Caroline must be allergic to vodka!

As for the coraline, mine does not grow much but I don't dose vodka. It does grow quite a bit on the shaded spots but not at all in the lighted spots. It grows on my glass and pump but not on my liverock. I just wish I could get rid of it all together, I hate the thing.

Originally Posted by Navarchus

First of all it is a known fact that dosing vodka will suppress Caroline, and actually some people find it as an advantage more then disadvantage since Caroline when spread can consume quite a lot of your tank resources.
On a personal note:

Adding carbon source to your tank is not a kid’s game but a serious decision, which requires knowledge and understanding of the biological process and the water chemistry.
If you would like I can elaborate on this subject…