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Old 12-07-2013, 01:48 AM
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One of these days I wish one of the reviewers would do something truly useful like take a coral, frag it in to evenly sized pieces, then grow them in identical setups with 'magic juice' dosed to one but not the other.

Last time I dosed amino acids the only thing I noticed was a sudden explosion of cyano bacteria. I'd be willing to give this stuff a shot, but I am highly suspicious of any product that promises what this review seems to have promised.
Amino's work, this isn't really up for debate. The thing about supplements, though, is that they only work if your corals/system are at peak health. It's sorta like health additives -- If you're fat, lethargic and eat Mc'Dicks everyday, extra vitamin C probably isn't going to help your case.
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Amino's work, this isn't really up for debate. The thing about supplements, though, is that they only work if your corals/system are at peak health. It's sorta like health additives -- If you're fat, lethargic and eat Mc'Dicks everyday, extra vitamin C probably isn't going to help your case.
Whenever someone makes a claim like that, I have to say "show me the data"!

Personally, I don't take Reef Builders too seriously when they review products. I read their site all the time as they are great at showing off the latest and greatest aquarium gear, but since they accept advertising dollars from all over I do not think they can be considered an unbiased source of information. They did spark an interest in me about AcroPower though, so they are good at what they do!
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:01 AM
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Whenever someone makes a claim like that, I have to say "show me the data"!

Personally, I don't take Reef Builders too seriously when they review products. I read their site all the time as they are great at showing off the latest and greatest aquarium gear, but since they accept advertising dollars from all over I do not think they can be considered an unbiased source of information. They did spark an interest in me about AcroPower though, so they are good at what they do!
Well we are talking about amino acids here...not something that can be considered as "snake oil". I have used aminos and have seen crazy polyps from SPS (can't comment on growth cause I always had great luck with growth anyway; knock on the wood). Zeovit relies a lot on aminos. "Proper data" would obviously be great to look at but one thing I have realized is you won't be able to get any data regarding chemical stuffs from unbiased source in this hobby; whoever has money/equipment to undergo such tests are already related to some names.
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Whenever someone makes a claim like that, I have to say "show me the data"!

Personally, I don't take Reef Builders too seriously when they review products. I read their site all the time as they are great at showing off the latest and greatest aquarium gear, but since they accept advertising dollars from all over I do not think they can be considered an unbiased source of information. They did spark an interest in me about AcroPower though, so they are good at what they do!
Wellppp... Until some aspiring PhD graduate or big science foundation takes this most magnanimously prestigious and practical endeavor to task, all you'll have from the community and industry at large are anecdotal statements. I suppose you'll just have to take their word for it OR not use the products
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