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Old 01-29-2009, 08:52 PM
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Yup, having lots of large fish in a tank almost requires you to do have a system for reducing nitrates. Specially since most fish seems to be soooo hungry all the time But really, this is the worst it can be really... it can only go up from here over the next few months, and I'm thinking it will blow us away either way... even if it is at the expense of a gorgonian or two.
Yeah I have to admit I am pretty impressed already with how the sps are looking and I can only imagine how nice they will be once I actually start using other products...this is with ONLY the basics. Not even coral snow yet which I hear really makes the corals happy. If things keep up this way too, these small colonies will be quite large in a relatively short time because I have certainly noticed more growth over the past few weeks. At least very nice new tips and new branches.

Again I don't know how much of it is ZEO and how much would have happened anyways but I am confident that ZEO has helped a lot. Even that horn coral I posted earlier is now green again! It was so dull and beige until starting ZEO.

Hopefully the gorgonians make it. The yellow seem to be loving the ZEO but that purple one, not so much. Although I noticed PE again this morning.
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Old 01-29-2009, 09:09 PM
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So as I mentioned before I am setting up the new tank in February. Most of the equipment will be the same but I will take lots of pics of the build this time. Starting with the stand. My brother and I are building it this weekend. Just a regular overbuilt 2x4 frame, plywood and a laminate finish. Hopefully we can find the super gloss white (or maybe black) laminate we are looking for.

The other option is to tile the stand. I have a few ideas in mind for that but we'll see what the cost would be. I found the 1" sq. tiles I like (they are meant for a kitchen backsplash) but they are $23 a square foot...not too cost friendly.

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Here are the tank equipment specs:


Tank: Custom 72"x30"x22"
1/2" side panels
3/4" bottom
Center Overflow drilled for herbie overflow and return line
Eurobraced

Sump: 72" 120G (my current display)

Lighting: Dual 400 watt MH with Lumenbright reflectors
Either 14k or 20k...not sure yet. Bulb suggestions are welcome.

Flow: Tunze Wavebox
2 x Modded Koralia 4's (over 2200 GPH each)
800 GPH return line


I will be still running ZEO but haven't decided if I should get a bigger reactor or not yet.

The tank stand is going to be as sleek and "modern" as possible to match the rest of the condo. Just a very, very basic gloss white "cube" for the tank to sit on. The doors will be panels that slide (like Lastlight's stand ) so they are basically not very noticeable when closed hopefully.

No canopy. I am going to hang the lights from the ceiling, about 20" off the water surface which is ideal for the Lumenbright reflectors and should give ideal PAR and not cause heat issues. The thing is, they may not look right because the ceiling is 14' tall...kind of long cables Might look into other options.

Other than that...not much. That is all the equipment for now. Once the cost of all this dissipates a bit, I will be switching from annoying two part dosing to the Balling method. Just can't spend $500 on a new dosing pump right away

This project HAS to be up and running by the first week in March when our place is being used for a fashion photo shoot. So relatively fast.

I was hoping to move livestock over very slowly but since the display tank now is going to be the sump, I have to do it quickly...probably going to fill the new tank with new sand and some rock I have cycling and half new water. Do the plumbing and whatnot without the sump in place (its VERY simple). Let the new tank sit and do its thing for a week or two and when it is stable and testing the same as the current display, start moving stuff over. Set up the old tank as the sump and hopefully everything lives!

I have lots and lots of people offering to help so I think the actual day I transfer everything over and finish the plumbing will go fine.

Hmmm...that got long! Work is quite boring today I usually work from home but had to go into the studio for a few days. Its very weird not being home with my tank!
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Old 01-29-2009, 11:31 PM
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Hmmm...that got long! Work is quite boring today I usually work from home but had to go into the studio for a few days. Its very weird not being home with my tank!
You know youve got it bad when you suffer separation anxiety going to work for a few hours.
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Hmmm...that got long! Work is quite boring today I usually work from home but had to go into the studio for a few days. Its very weird not being home with my tank!
I'm sure if you buy it a nice SPS coral it will forgive you
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Old 01-29-2009, 11:47 PM
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You know youve got it bad when you suffer separation anxiety going to work for a few hours.
Honestly it really has been weird. I haven't seen my tank for about 7 hours. I keep thinking bad things are happening...even though I know its fine.

I bet my fish are ****ed though. They usually eat 4-5 meals a day
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I'm sure if you buy it a nice SPS coral it will forgive you
It would but then I have to deal with an angry PERSON. I promised the girl that I would not be adding more sps until after the tank switch. She is worried that after just starting ZEO and then moving tanks, I may loose some stuff and there is no point in adding more now. I agree. I just wouldn't have much self control if I didn't have her telling me not to do it

Having said that, I am on the look out for small frags.
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Hopefully the gorgonians make it. The yellow seem to be loving the ZEO but that purple one, not so much. Although I noticed PE again this morning.
Good to hear that you noticed PE again, maybe it was just a bit too much of a shock to have to work for it's food unstead of absorbing it from the water Glad to hear it's recovering, and good luck with the new tank... I'll be tagging along
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Old 01-30-2009, 06:05 AM
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Good to hear that you noticed PE again, maybe it was just a bit too much of a shock to have to work for it's food unstead of absorbing it from the water Glad to hear it's recovering, and good luck with the new tank... I'll be tagging along
There really wasn't too much PE from it but at least some. I removed the cyano from it manually. If it doesn't improve in the next few weeks though, I will most likely sell the gorgonian. Its much to beautiful (and healthy) to have it die off in my tank. Its such a nice purple and not all that common I don't think for photosynthetic gorgonians. We'll see how it goes.

I will take some pics of it tomorrow.
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Awesome, I've been heavily interested in gorgonians (and sponges for that matter) since I found out that there are colorful (and not) photosynthetic species. Just curious... are there any zoas or other soft corals in the tank?
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Awesome, I've been heavily interested in gorgonians (and sponges for that matter) since I found out that there are colorful (and not) photosynthetic species. Just curious... are there any zoas or other soft corals in the tank?
Yes actually. None look to good except a yellow leather that looks better after starting ZEO.

I have zoo's which look OK but not as colorful as before. I have a purple leather which has lost some size. A few yellow gorgonians that have gone brown (although this was kind of starting before ZEO). I have some mushrooms that are very small and shriveled up.

I think due to the lack of nutrients and in a relatively short time, the softies will take longer to adjust. Its a bit of a payoff but as long as they do not die, I will keep them. If they start to go downhill more, I will sell them.

I also have a nice orange sponge that is NOT liking the ZEO at all. Actually is deteriorating fast. I will have to keep my eye on it.
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