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Old 11-28-2013, 04:26 PM
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Here we go its the but it works for me crowd

Maybe some of us want more then choosing color

I have over 100 different sps 50,lps and 150 Zoos and Ive personally warranty and take apart over 100 radions

I've owned all versions of them and yes they grow corals but so does everything else

Over 10yrs in the hobby dedicated to corals

Between work and home ive seen used Maxspect mazZeras and RAZORS kessils all sizes radioms all gens ghls and now the hybrids

Question how do you find the encrusting time on chalices?

How about growth on your deepwater sps colonies ?

What's your opinion on leds and fungus with zoanthids?


How about wild acropora fresh off the boat any advice?

I highly doubt its a inexperience thing more of a some of us want more than but my corals grow and color fine
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Old 11-28-2013, 04:49 PM
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Old 11-28-2013, 04:56 PM
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I run T5s on my big tank but given the option I would much rather run LEDs just because I can get the colour spectrum I want. Many will argue you can do that with T5s as well and I have no doubt you can but I just like the look of LEDs on the water column that you just can't get with T5s or MH
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Old 11-28-2013, 04:27 PM
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How about wild acropora fresh off the boat any advice?
Well, these can be a challenge with any lights.

Where I have seen a negative with LEDs is acclimatization with new corals, especially if they have come from T5 lighting, but even MH. LEDs seem to be harsh on them at the beginning, esp chalices. But what I found is that you have to give them a few months (ramping intensity up slowly), and then suddenly growth takes off, and I mean really takes off. That also goes for the deep water smoothies. Same with colour, can be bleached or brown at first, but then really changes later, and even much nicer than some of the original mother colonies. I have some corals (eg purple cross) that colour up much nicer in my tank, than with other lights.
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Old 11-28-2013, 04:35 PM
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I also agree with other people on not getting the right look on colors and getting that pop out of your corals. I found that my reds really didnt show up at all and tried to find and tried different LEDs to supplement them. No luck until I added a couple of Hydras to the mix. I have 4 Sol Blues and 2 Hydras.
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How about wild acropora fresh off the boat any advice?
I've got a few wild acropora colonies under my radions, it took them the better part of a year to a) decide what colour they were going to be and b) start growing. It might be true that the acclimation period under different lights would be shorter, but all my wild colonies are doing well and quite surprisingly beautiful now.

I would agree that one of the secrets of success is more fixtures per area than might be recommended, but when you're talking about a 900-1200 fixture that gets pricey fast.

I'll also say that under my radions, entire clades of LPS bleach to death and I don't even bother with things like chalices anymore. I'm sure I could adjust the program for them specifically, as under a kessil (which had no red, no green, and a different ratio of white to blue) they recover beautifully - so it's not LEDs per se, but it makes me sad when I see T5 or halide lit tanks that are growing baller SPS right next to beautiful, shimmering open brains and crazy rainbow chalices. I feel like with the radions I'm having to make a choice between one kind of coral over another.

My next set of lights will probably be the ATI hybrid fixture unless something awesome sauce happens in the LED world before then.

I keep wondering where Ecotech is going to go with the radion, obviously the radion pro won't be the last iteration, but while it was pretty obvious that they were going to come out with a fixture with UV, I'm not sure where they can go now.
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A year is a long time

I get it though radions grow corals I think I mentioned that


Its the trial and error I can't spare I'd prefer to just go with a more forgiveibg fixture

Did I mention I've owned all Gens of radions great.fixtures just not for what I do others will say it is
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Old 11-28-2013, 05:43 PM
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haha, yah, if it came off like I was saying it was a good thing that it took a year I didn't type it right. All my corals go through a tantrum under the radions for at least a few months. They ultimately end up growing, but part of me wonders what my tank would look like if there hadn't been months to a year of suspended animation on so many of my colonies.

Also, I realized last weekend that on two of my fixtures, the white channel had burnt out completely on half of the fixture. Trying to get in touch with Ecotech to figure out how to fix it because they're well out of warranty. I'm not thrilled about that. 50,000 hours my rear end.
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I think it's impossible to come to a conclusion on this topic. No 2 tanks are exactly the same.

Some will have success with something, while others won't.
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I think it's impossible to come to a conclusion on this topic.
Which is why it's so much fun to fake-debate. We all have the answer, except that there is no right answer.
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