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Old 02-19-2013, 04:22 PM
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You may not have to remove all your corals if you can deal with their "favorite" before they spread.
Yes, good point. If you catch it early enough there may only be a few corals affected since AEFW, like red bugs, always have favourite corals to munch on. Once you figure out their favourites you can continue to monitor those favourites in the future.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:22 PM
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BLUE WORLD ON HILLSIDE HAS SOME GREEN WRASSES IN $21.00 THEY ARE SMALL, UNDER 2 INCHES AND WILL EAT YOUR FLATWORMS
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those will eat red planaria. Not sure if they eat AEFW
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:11 PM
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I have been doing some legwork on sourcing:
BAYER ADVANCED COMPLETE BRAND INSECT KILLER
in Canada. The active ingredients are:
1) Imidacloprid and
2) beta-Cyfluthrin.

1) Imidacloprid is the active ingredient found in many topical flea medications that are available in Canada such as Advantage II as well as crop pest control agents also available in Canada.

2) beta-Cyfluthrin is another common pest control agent and can be found with shipping available to Canada here. The MSDS for the linked product is here.

Were somebody suitably motivated, the information and sources above should enable you to recreate the Bayer product used successfully in the link Reefer Rob posted up about a dozen posts back. If you guys would like me to try to put it together I would be happy to put some more legwork in and get it together.

Failing that, I am happy to donate frags to either of you with no limits to quantity should the need arise.
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I think at this point my only concern is future stock, so I'll be taking frags of everything, making sure they're clean and finding them a home. Other than that, I'll watch and wait. Hopefully it doesn't become a problem.

As for Wayne, he's tearing the tank down for a rebuild anyway, so that should allow him to more easily sort this out. Bet he's glad now that he didn't mount his corals like I told him to
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I have been doing some legwork on sourcing:
BAYER ADVANCED COMPLETE BRAND INSECT KILLER
in Canada. The active ingredients are:
1) Imidacloprid and
2) beta-Cyfluthrin.

1) Imidacloprid is the active ingredient found in many topical flea medications that are available in Canada such as Advantage II as well as crop pest control agents also available in Canada.

2) beta-Cyfluthrin is another common pest control agent and can be found with shipping available to Canada here. The MSDS for the linked product is here.

Were somebody suitably motivated, the information and sources above should enable you to recreate the Bayer product used successfully in the link Reefer Rob posted up about a dozen posts back. If you guys would like me to try to put it together I would be happy to put some more legwork in and get it together.

Failing that, I am happy to donate frags to either of you with no limits to quantity should the need arise.
Dan, this would be an interesting project and could make you high in demand.
I am working on a rebuild so that may not be of a huge concern however my concern is will these flatworms lay eggs only on dead sps corals or will they lay eggs on rocks as well? If so is there another way to rid of them besides dipping the rocks or using insecticides?
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I had some success fighting them. Last year I dosed zeovit flatwormstop for 3 month at double or triple dose and it wipped them out for a while. In december, they came back on my hyacinthus and millepora (they seem the most susceptible of having them) and after on some other acros.

I went back to flatwormstop again at low dosage and I'm trying other tricks in fighting them. Apparently flatwormstop contains some phosphorus (a chemist did some analysis on it) and some reefers noted that a sudden drop in phosphates could trigger an infestation. So I guess it's a good thing to let some phosphates in your system (I'm at 0.03). Secondly, Claude Schumacher from Fauna Marin advised me to lower the temperature to 73-74 to limit their growth. I'm at 75-76 right now and with a frequent basting of corals, they do get rarer and now I just have 2 infected colonies and they do get better.

I don't like dipping solutions as it seems harsh on the coral and a PITA to do.
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:36 PM
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Great work Dan!

It should be noted that 2 different Bayer products were successfully used by people posting in the RC thread, and the common ingredient in both was B-Cyfluthrin.

The flatworms lay eggs in the "white zone" near the feeding area of live tissue. Dipping the corrals, and killing off all remaining live tissue on the rocks by basting with hot water is the best way to deal with these pests.
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