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Old 10-25-2012, 05:26 PM
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If you're going with dry/quarried rock make sure to soak the rock in RO/DI water and test for PO4. Don't ask me how I know

Once it becomes live... and clean, it works great.

Seeding with clean live rock is a good idea for bio-diversity (pods, worms, etc, etc). I know you're trying to keep out the bad, but you also keep out the good. There's more to live rock than de-nitrification.
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Old 10-25-2012, 05:40 PM
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I don't think either the "dry rock" or the "live rock" crowds are really swayed much be cost. .
I'm pretty sure that if all the stores in town started selling freshly imported uncured fiji rock at $0.50/lb, we'd see a huge shift in people's concerns over pests. Fresh live rock would suddenly become the best thing ever,
In fact, if the cost was exactly the same for fresh vs. dry, I bet 8 out of ten would switch to real live rock.
Regardless of what changes happen in this hobby, the bottom line always comes to cost for the majority of hobbyists. Yes, some don't care, but for most it's a cost thing.
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Old 10-27-2012, 04:59 PM
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I'm pretty sure that if all the stores in town started selling freshly imported uncured fiji rock at $0.50/lb, we'd see a huge shift in people's concerns over pests. Fresh live rock would suddenly become the best thing ever,
In fact, if the cost was exactly the same for fresh vs. dry, I bet 8 out of ten would switch to real live rock.
Regardless of what changes happen in this hobby, the bottom line always comes to cost for the majority of hobbyists. Yes, some don't care, but for most it's a cost thing.
I was thinking more about the folks who are really strongly opinionated on the subject. For some things I do care about cost (I opted for Sols over pricier options, and a lot of that had to do with cost) but this isn't one of them.

So yes, those people who aren't really passionate about dry rock would probably switch if costs were the same.
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Old 10-25-2012, 05:20 PM
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right now i am dealing with a bad pest......hydroids



the only cures that are available i can not use for livestock reasons.

so im now daily manually removing them and hoping the dozen peps i put in there help with the battle.

i dont think for a second that my tank is messed up or a lost cause if anything i actually learned a lot about this pest over the last 2 weeks, and while at first there didnt seem to be much hope i am seeing a difference and in time i got it for sure.


i bought a friends system the other night it came with 14 fish some of them very large around 12" or more , i was able to drop all the fish into my 50g fragtank and not even a glitch to be noticed with the system or water quality.....to me there is no substitute for quality mature liverock.

the fish have all found new homes.
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Old 10-25-2012, 05:06 PM
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pest free .....maybe at first.....yes


cheaper....i dont think so i see liverock for $2-$3 and even less all the time, last time i checked at the store dryrock was more expensive than that, maybe in quebec but out here in calgary liverock is as cheap as dry rock......so i dont see the plus side???
I have NEVER seen a store in Calgary sell Live Rock for $2-3/lbs. Which is about what I paid for my Dry Rock. (from a shop)

"Used" LR like the stuff you posted for sale, sure, you can find for cheap, but buyer also runs the risk of pests. Regardless of how pest free someone THINKS their LR is, there could always be something in it that the seller doesn't know about.
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Old 10-25-2012, 05:22 PM
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I have NEVER seen a store in Calgary sell Live Rock for $2-3/lbs. Which is about what I paid for my Dry Rock. (from a shop)

"Used" LR like the stuff you posted for sale, sure, you can find for cheap, but buyer also runs the risk of pests. Regardless of how pest free someone THINKS their LR is, there could always be something in it that the seller doesn't know about.

you run the risk of pests anyways is what im saying , even if you qt your gonna have to go all out in order to keep pests out.

so buy liverock that appears to be pest free, with some reading you can easily find out what it is we dont want.


i never said stores sell liverock for $3 i said it can be got at 2-3$
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In Quebec City, I haven't found live rock less than $8/lb, and that's if you buy in bulk. I opted for dry rock at a chain store, came up to about $1.51/lb. After 4 months, my rock is purple and everything seems fine. I originally bought 15 pounds of live rock and and then added the base rock.
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