rough copy for nano contest 2012 thoughts and opinions wanted!!!

[reefwars]

im kinda against the teams myself, if you need help with something sure but a flat out team, not officially.....i think silent teams will happen anyways

[Coasting]

Lots will happen that people wont post. Or will refuse to admit. Hey if I killed every fish off in the tank, I would replace them and not say a thing :P Cant dock points off what what we dont know!

I like the dates as they are. Make people do it properly and slowly so everyones fairly even. So the tanks are all maturing at the same time. Letting it cycle in the nano as it all begins. Just like starting our very first marine tank ever all the odd stuff that you notice when theres nothing in the tank but rock to look at.

[Borderjumper]

nov1rst/2012- official fill date:
on this date your tank should be filled with water , all plumbing done and be a running system. no livestock or rock is to be in your tank at this time. a pic of the tank running with water and the plumbing are to be provided.
nov15th/2012-rock and design placment:
by this date your little tank needs to have rock in it and sand (if using sand) , no corals fis or inverts are to be in your tank at this time just rock. a fulltank shot of your layout and structure are to be provided.
dec1rst2012-livestock additions-
if you were smart you started adding rock right after the filldate, so thats a month and now you can add livestock if you feel your tank can do so. a record of what livestock you choose needs to be noted .
jan3rd/2013- livestock additions and updates:

Your off on the dates..you say no rock can be added until nov 15, but then for dec 1 you say if you were smart you added rock right after the fill date ( nov1) which is clearly against da rulz. So on Dec 1, the rock has been in 2 weeks, not 30 daze.

[sphelps]

I like the idea of month updates, maybe semi-monthly would work as well if people are willing. Realistically the more updates the better and judges can use that to gauge planning. If people want to spend two months planning a 10 gallon, that's awesome but I think most will need less than a few days to plan it out.

IMO Dates:

Start date: - Build thread has to be started by this day displaying empty tank or a tank in the process of being built, basically something showing the tank isn't full of water yet.

Threads must be updated at least twice monthly with pictures added at least once a month.

End Date: Tanks are judged accordingly

That's all you need, but that's just how I see it.

[Enigma]

Originally Posted by sphelps

I'll say you can't have teams if you have a rule stating no borrowing. Those two don't mix as you can borrow anything you want if you add team members....

Honestly I think you have too many rules and dates. I don't see why you can't allow borrowing and if people want to work together then let them. And what's will all the dates? Why can't people add rock/livestock from the start? You can't even add rock until 45 days after the contest starts... And then another 15 days after that before livestock is added... Seems to me the first two months are going to be pretty lame, interest will likely drop, I know mine has already Remember it's a nano tank, most people set these things up over a weekend if that. Sure if people want to go slow that's good too but forcing everyone to follow the same timeline doesn't usually work for everyone.

If people are looking for a prize I can contribute.

They way I read the date regarding the rock was that it had to be in by that date: you could put it in much earlier (the day after you filled the tank, for example).

I may be wrong, though.

I'm confused about adding sand. I would normally do that before I filled the tank, but it looks like that can't be done until after the tank is filled. So, I'd have to fill, then drain, add sand, and refill to prevent a crazy sandstorm.

I suspect I would become part of an "unofficial team" the second I grabbed hubby's drill or sawzall. (Of which I will require both . . . But, what's his is mine anyway )

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by Enigma

They way I read the date regarding the rock was that it had to be in by that date: you could put it in much earlier (the day after you filled the tank, for example).

I may be wrong, though.

I'm confused about adding sand. I would normally do that before I filled the tank, but it looks like that can't be done until after the tank is filled. So, I'd have to fill, then drain, add sand, and refill to prevent a crazy sandstorm.

I suspect I would become part of an "unofficial team" the second I grabbed hubby's drill or sawzall. (Of which I will require both . . . But, what's his is mine anyway )

your reading it right, as for sand if you wish to do it prior i cant see a problem with that unless anyone else does , when i write the official rules and reg's ill note that for sure

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by don.ald

Two questions:
The 10 pts for photography is only on pics of the full tank shots? Not equipment plumbing etc?
Next, is the contest for the tank only or are stands and how and what the tank sits on also part of the contest?

the 10 points for photography will be for anything to do with photography including fulltankshots,updates,and just general pics added when ever. it wont come down to who takes the best pics , a person who shows 10 phone pics and gives a bit of detail or just posts random pics may get more points then the person who goes out and buys a $3000 camera for 4 pics and just expects to win .maybe you cant get a pic of that tricky wrasse they all come out blurred...so post 10 blurred shots that shows the judges that you are trying for both participation and phtography:P

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by don.ald

Two questions:
The 10 pts for photography is only on pics of the full tank shots? Not equipment plumbing etc?
Next, is the contest for the tank only or are stands and how and what the tank sits on also part of the contest?

stands, light holders whatever little goodies you incorporate will def be looked at, not saying you "have" to post stand pics but being a bit creative might sway the judges for some points ya know

[Coasting]

Who do we have to bribe to tell us who the judges are so we can bribe the judges....

Anyone want to teach me how to plumb a tank?

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by Coasting

Who do we have to bribe to tell us who the judges are so we can bribe the judges....

Anyone want to teach me how to plumb a tank?

well as of right now im the only person who knows the judges...the judges dont even know the judges yet lol , im thinking once the contest officially starts i will cut communication with them unless someone has a family emergency or pms me with a problem, in whiich case ill pm all 5 judges right away.

and vice versa if a problem comes up with them.


in case anyones inerested reading this i am looking for more judges still, ive already had some volunteers, dont be shy