Outraged!!! - Page 2

Judy Waytiuk · #1 12-11-2011, 05:27 PM

jorjef, you are in Regina. We are in Winnipeg. There's a fair amount of info that has been going around for some time among local aquarists about this subject. here is the link that lists the full CITES control list-- species for which you can get permits.
http://ec.gc.ca/cites/listedecontrol...ist.swFullList
Please note scleratinia rock is not on that list.
As for two people crucifying a business-- had you seen the posts on the local fish forum for the few hours the thread was active before it was shut down, you would know the local fish community was pretty p'd off with this guy.
It would be useful if you were to try to form your opinions based on solid information.

jtbadco · #2 12-11-2011, 04:51 PM

Moot point.... YOU CANNOT GET PERMITS FOR WHAT HE BROUGHT IN.

We all keep fish in glass boxes but I for one do not keep any endangered species. I think that by keeping fish as we do, we raise awareness and knowledge of these wonderful animals and by doing so we help to maintain these animals in the wild.

By rationalizing what he did we support the unscrupulous people who are willing to destroy the environment to line his pockets.

Myka · #3 12-11-2011, 05:41 PM

I think you guys should leave the personal banter out of this unless you want the mods to close the thread. If you feel like being a jerk do it in PM. A thread like this should be discussed, and would be a shame to see it closed.

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Originally Posted by jtbadco

Moot point.... YOU CANNOT GET PERMITS FOR WHAT HE BROUGHT IN.

Are you talking about the seahorses? Seahorses were added to the CITES list (meaning they required permitting) in 2004. I do believe that in 2008 you could still get CITES for wild seahorses...I can't find any references to this right now though, but I thought it was just a couple years ago that the wild collection ban came into place. Anyone know for sure...can find reference?

jorjef · #4 12-11-2011, 05:46 PM

Ya I'm done...

jorjef · #5 12-11-2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mark

other thing that gets me on this was if he had actually gotten that permit, which I'm sure they do give, we all would just continuing happily buying the product.

In other words, we're all okay with the raping and pillaging the environment as long as the paper work is in order???

I agree 100 percent, hypocrisy runs rampant in this hobby and it really makes me want to puke...I don't care how well you provide for your little fishies bottom line is the vast majority and in most cases ALL of our tanks live contents come from the wild. How can any tank owner trash talk the hobby knowing this? You have no idea what took place or how they were handled when the creatures of your tank were collected.