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11-05-2011, 05:08 PM
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Lol much of the kool aid did you drink.
Let's assume for a second the rep knows what he is talking about. If that's the case then this small company is creating "efficient" LEDs that are as efficient as bridgelux LEDs. Bridgelux has probably spent millions apon millions to make their led chips to the efficiency they are. So you are telling me a eBay store (yes these guys were a china drop ship eBay store last year) can compete with the millions bridgelux spends on R&D? Ok Worse case they make their own chips. Best case scenario they use someone else's chips and they build their own phosphorus layer and locus which still takes alot of money. The rep could be considering this as their "own diode". If they are doing this. That's great. None of this really makes a huge effect compared to using other LEDs. The AI sol will grow your SPS just as well. I deal will sales rep daily and they try to give me kool aid but I say no. Quote:
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11-05-2011, 06:16 PM
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Large companies/corporations do not always have the market cornered with respect to innovation & engineering expertise. It appears to me that Orphek has done at least several years of research into their product & from some of the reviews of actual users, the product is very good. After reading the information in the link to 3reef, I'm inclined to believe that a fair bit of effort & useful research has gone into their fixtures. The fact that they do not use Crees or even Bridgelux (which many have scoffed at until recently) may turn some people off, but there is more & more data appearing that shows there are other manufacturers out there producing diodes more than suited to our application. Bottom line appears to be that at the very least they've done extensive research into the colour spectrum required by our livestock & tailored their fixtures to that end.
It's irrelevant where their storefront may have been a year ago. To the best of my knowledge their head office is currently in Brazil, one of the strongest emerging market economies. We need to be careful of our foreign country bashing, particularly China. They have some very intelligent folks over there, just like any country in the world, many of them educated in some of our finest universities. I figure in a decade or two, our complacency & sense of entitlement with our still comfortable standard of living is in for a wake up call from emerging market countries like Brazil, China etc.
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11-05-2011, 06:19 PM
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RE:MILAD
How do I know that it's not you serving up the kool-aid? I guess I'm supposed to believe that you know more about the product than the national rep? You know companies can get sued for false product claims right. So this guy is a liar and a liability to the company i guess. I show you a statement from the company...and you give me guesses and opinions....yet I'm to believe the guy who is just guessing he knows the situation.
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11-06-2011, 04:44 AM
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there is a lot of 1/2 truths in that also..and whats the word I am looking for.. where you take something that is normal and make it sound like the newest and greates thing.. ie. them using constant current drivers. he also talks about spectral shift of an LED.. they don't shift spectrums that is the best thing about them they only dim, and that amout is minimal at there rated life. Steve
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