Ich

[Reef Pilot]

Originally Posted by Reefpins10

I broke my 65 gallons fish tank on February, so I got a new 75 gallon in March. I think that made the fish stressed out caused to have ich. I don't think I am able to set up a quarantine tank if I get new fish, my place is very small there is no room left even for a small rubbermaid container.

When was the last time you added a new fish?

[George]

Originally Posted by daniella3d

Some strain of ich will probably be much harder to eliminate than others. Some even resist hyposalinity treatment. Ich is a powerfull killer and it must be taken seriously. What work for one might not work for others and for me garlic never worked, but hyposalinity did the trick. For some people that does not work and Cupramine is required in QT.

I would like to have creditable prove that "...ich...Some even resist hypo-salinity treatment."
For me, hypo always work on ich. If hypo doesn't work on ich, it usually means salinity(SG) is not on target. SG should be 1.008-1.009 (or salinity 11 - 12). Or you don't hold the salinity at that level long enough. 4 to 5 weeks should be sufficient.

[daniella3d]

Read about it on the net and you will see that some strain of ich can resist hypo. I did it twice, once it worked well and the next time it did not. Yes I do have a good refractometer and kept the water at 1.009 for 6 week. Yet when I raised the salinity back, ich was back in one week. Cupramine did it.

Not just because it always worked for you that it will always work for everyone. I did not beleive that either after one successful occurance but now I am a beleiver.

Originally Posted by George

I would like to have creditable prove that "...ich...Some even resist hypo-salinity treatment."
For me, hypo always work on ich. If hypo doesn't work on ich, it usually means salinity(SG) is not on target. SG should be 1.008-1.009 (or salinity 11 - 12). Or you don't hold the salinity at that level long enough. 4 to 5 weeks should be sufficient.

[MKLKT]

I think I've had maybe 2 fish die from J&L, the rest have been fine and are all 6-12+ months in my system. My experience has been worse for livestock from King Ed, hardly anything I get from there lives.

[Hawkaholic]

Buying from different pet stores is another factor to consider. Buying from different stores means you can't really pinpoint where the problem came from. Research store in your area, ask to see their waters salinity. Alot of stores, suppliers, wholesalers keep their salinity low cuz they believe it keeps the parasites from staying alive. In a way...they are keeping their fish in hypo-salinity then you have to take the fish home and acclimate for 3-4 hours and lets face it...we don't do that.

I wouldn't wait the 10 or so weeks reefpin. I would check all the pars and if they are all good...get a couple small fish that you want to keep and try them. I'm with globaldesigns...ich is always present in your tank. I have stated before in another related post that I have a Powder Blue Tang that gets ich all the time. In the beginning I would freak out and load up on the garlic or any other remedy I could think of but the ich came back. I gave up and just let him be...its been two years now and (not braggin or anything here) it is one of the nicest lookin PBs out there...and he still gets spots from time to time.

Sorry to sound winded reefpin...ich is a touchy subject...many reefers have different opinions on the subject. If it were me...I would be adding a couple small fish soon(tomorrow) to keep the cycle in check but check all the water pars first.

[daniella3d]

That's a myth, but in your case it is true. Some people will always have ich because they don't do anything about it. Period.

I don't have ich in my tank, never had, because I don't let it into my tank.

Ich is a parasite. There is no reason why it should be there at all, and no reason why fish have to live with it. Same has with cat fleas. When I had my blue hippo I first did an hyposalinity treatment and when it was cured, it never developped ich again. When I transfered it into the main tank there was no trace of ich and from that day it never showed any, not even when stressed from the move and new environment and blue hippo are known to be ich magnet.

I think that says it all.

Originally Posted by Hawkaholic

Buying from different pet stores is another factor to consider. Buying from different stores means you can't really pinpoint where the problem came from. Research store in your area, ask to see their waters salinity. Alot of stores, suppliers, wholesalers keep their salinity low cuz they believe it keeps the parasites from staying alive. In a way...they are keeping their fish in hypo-salinity then you have to take the fish home and acclimate for 3-4 hours and lets face it...we don't do that.

I wouldn't wait the 10 or so weeks reefpin. I would check all the pars and if they are all good...get a couple small fish that you want to keep and try them. I'm with globaldesigns...ich is always present in your tank. I have stated before in another related post that I have a Powder Blue Tang that gets ich all the time. In the beginning I would freak out and load up on the garlic or any other remedy I could think of but the ich came back. I gave up and just let him be...its been two years now and (not braggin or anything here) it is one of the nicest lookin PBs out there...and he still gets spots from time to time.

Sorry to sound winded reefpin...ich is a touchy subject...many reefers have different opinions on the subject. If it were me...I would be adding a couple small fish soon(tomorrow) to keep the cycle in check but check all the water pars first.

[Aquaria]

Originally Posted by MKLKT

I think I've had maybe 2 fish die from J&L, the rest have been fine and are all 6-12+ months in my system. My experience has been worse for livestock from King Ed, hardly anything I get from there lives.

Iv had the complete opposite problem lol my king Ed fish are fat and healthly lol

[George]

Regarding health of fish from different LFS, I think where you fish came from plays an important role in the health of your fish. Grant, the owner of island pets (formally Big Als in this region), made a bold claim that he has never heard of any collection station in Indonesia that is not using cyanide or dynamite to catch fish. I know using of cyanide or dynamite in Indonesia is wide spread. But Grant's claim is the strongest I have ever heard. Philippine fish is a crap shot as well.
I also notice a trend in recent years that LFS start to use island name or region name instead of country name to label fish origin. I am not sure it's intentional or unintentional. For example, Bali or Irian Jaya. They are all islands in Indonesia. Make sure to sharp up your geography before you purchase your fish