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[Megalodon]

Originally Posted by RuGlu6

Yes exactly my point, how is what we do different?

How is what we do different? Are you serious?

[Megalodon]

Originally Posted by jon.smolders

So how come we don't have a problem with betta's in tiny little cups? Or goldfish fed as feederfish? Or kept in tiny fishbowls where the water is never changed? Or goldfish or bettas used a centre pieces in weddings.. afterwhich half are taken home to die, while the other half are flushed? Or the goldfish put in blenders or swallowed whole by 12 year old kids?

We don't have a problem with these things, eh? Speak for yourself.

[adamsarmywife]

Without stepping on anyone's toes
I don't think it makes it any more acceptable for the Chinese people to allow horrible things like this to happen just because we allow equally stupid things like betas in a cup to happen here.

I think this is disgusting, and people who are caught selling such things should be kept in a closet for a week with some nutrient rich air to see how it feels.

[MarkoD]

this is stupid for many reasons.

and you cant even clean the algae once it starts growing a few days later

[mws]

It's not any different to me then bettas in a plastic cups we look at in everystore in Canada, or puppies in a glass boxes in petland.
And yes China has a bigger problem them a goldfish in a key chain, just search Chinese live animals market or dogs for meat/fur trade.
How about a bonsai kitty? Fully operated business in New York City with website and phone#.And apparently there is a thing like appropriate Bonsai Kitticulture permits from the U.S. government from reading there website.http://www.ding.net/bonsaikitten/bkmethod.html

[MikeInToronto]

Originally Posted by mws

How about a bonsai kitty? Fully operated business in New York City with website and phone#.And apparently there is a thing like appropriate Bonsai Kitticulture permits from the U.S. government from reading there website.http://www.ding.net/bonsaikitten/bkmethod.html

The rest of your post seemed legit but you're being facetious here, right?

[viperfish]

I disagree with the puppies in the pet store, while I think pet stores who support puppy mills should lose their license, the display in the store is only a stopover and they can at least have a good quality of life once they go to their new home.
There are people out there who would disagree with us putting fish in tanks but I think the quality of these creatures existence is where the line needs to be drawn. There may come a time when the fate of entire species will depend on captivity, in fact there have been already. Practices like these "keychain fish" can kill off a species if it became a fad. It's not that long ago that you could go to craft stores and buy dried Seahorses, look where the Seahorse population is at right now.

[freezetyle]

Originally Posted by mws

It's not any different to me then bettas in a plastic cups we look at in everystore in Canada, or puppies in a glass boxes in petland.
And yes China has a bigger problem them a goldfish in a key chain, just search Chinese live animals market or dogs for meat/fur trade.
How about a bonsai kitty? Fully operated business in New York City with website and phone#.And apparently there is a thing like appropriate Bonsai Kitticulture permits from the U.S. government from reading there website.http://www.ding.net/bonsaikitten/bkmethod.html

you know that website is a joke right

http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2001/02/41733

[mws]

Originally Posted by freezetyle

you know that website is a joke right

http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2001/02/41733

Thanks for posting this, made me feel a lot better.

[paddyob]

Originally Posted by don.ald

remember, what is acceptable in china's culture may not be acceptable in another. most lfs in canada have no problem selling a goldfish in a goldfish bowl.

if this was a betta keychain would that be ok?
small plastic cup or keychain?

Agree. We may not like it, but attacking a culture is sick itself.

Look at some of the tanks on here... lol. They may as well be keychains as well.