Cleaning your tank during a showing of ICH

[daniella3d]

copper is poison. I would be much more worried about the fish liver instead of the invertabrates.

Originally Posted by Frenchie2

Those pellets contain a tiny bit of cooper but will not endanger your invertebres.

[Aquattro]

Well, I still think there's ich in every tank....healthy fish are not affected, so it doesn't matter to me. Each person needs to decide how to manage risks and act accordingly

[globaldesigns]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Well, I still think there's ich in every tank....healthy fish are not affected, so it doesn't matter to me. Each person needs to decide how to manage risks and act accordingly

+1, I too am of the opinion that ICH IS ICH, and all tanks have it. Healthy fish are able to repel the parasite as they have good slime coats. Unhealthy fish, tend to lack enough slime coat or lose it and this allows the parasite to penetrate them.

I have had ich, I have tangs and they are all fine. It probably has been 2 years since I had any ICH episodes. So I believe a healthy environment promotes healthy fish.

So in saying the above, I don't believe in quarantining or treating fish for sickness (except for healthy foods and garlic). Catching a sick fish, just stresses them out more. If you buy a new fish, they are already stressed from capture and transport. Why quarantine them, to just stress them out again when you have to re-capture and move them over. So with new or old habitants, just let them be.... If they are healthy enough, they will make it through.

Just my opinion, don't beat me up too bad!

[marie]

Why is everyone so obsessed with Ich, there are worse things to worry about then ich. If you are in a position to check a fish out closely before buying then thankfully there is a 99% chance you will never come across those worse things.

I am not in that position, everything I get is mailorder and after once losing half my fish to marine velvet I am not willing to chance going through it again (even if I could check a fish out before buying)

I have also found quarantining a fish easier on the fish then being dumped straight off into the display tank. Fish take less time to get used to eating prepared foods and are quicker to get used to my presence..... just my experience anyway and I have a regal angel, an achilles tang, 2 potters angels and a copperband butterfly

[daniella3d]

why? ever heard of marine velvet?

I just got a copperband butterfly and putting it in quarantine was the best thing to do because the fish ended up needing a huge amount of food to fatten up (was very skinny) and also ended up needing a prazipro treatment for flukes.

The quarantine is the perfect time and place to acclimate a fish properly. It is quiet, nobody bother it and it can be trained to eat certain type of food without other fish jumping all in. Dumping a new fish into a main tank with lots of other fish where there can be aggression is much more stressfull to the fish. Even though no other fish attack it my copperband was much more stressed going into my main tank with other fish moving around than when it was alone and quiet in its quarantine tank. There it could take all its time to eat.

Originally Posted by globaldesigns

Why quarantine them, to just stress them out again when you have to re-capture and move them over. So with new or old habitants, just let them be.... If they are healthy enough, they will make it through.

Just my opinion, don't beat me up too bad!

[daniella3d]

Unfortunatly these tree things would not work against marine velvet. lets just hope you don't have to deal with that. More than one person here on this forum were doing the same thing for years without problem, until one day.... then you read threads here mentioning 30 dead fishes.

This is silly and does not have to be just because someone is careless and think that these things will never happen to them. It's not being responsible, it's playing russian roulette with your livestock.

Originally Posted by zoaElite

Ready for a shocker? I never quarantine new fish purchases and have never had any serious problems with disease (Tanks been running for over a year now). Perhaps it's just luck *Knock on wood* but the 3 things I do to keep my fish healthy and happy include:

-Feeding an extremely varied diet soaked in a garlic supplement.
-Regular water changes and nitrate sinks to reduce water containment.
-I also employ a pair of cleaner shrimp and fire shrimp that have set up cleaning stations on either side of the tank.

Seems you are doing everything just fine, I would keep your cleaning routine the exact same and you should see the spots disappear nice and fast.