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Old 12-22-2009, 07:35 PM
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Won't get into the dolphin videos from Japan (most disturbing to me) but I will say its all very sad.
Yes, I got sick after I watched one of those videos. Same with some of the videos of skinning little critters alive for their fur.
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:14 PM
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C'mon...seriously?

Your going to really compare buying anything warm (I think you meant 'warm') blooded from a LFS (not sure how many warm blooded animals are found in a LFS mind you) to eating a fish live piece by piece?

I don't understand why you visit a fish keeping forum if you have these views?

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With all due respect,
If i have blood or any circulatory system , regardless of how much evolved i am no different from human in regards to torture and feelings.

Having said all that i am just as guilty !
Because i keep fish in a glass box and I eat sushi.
What i am trying to say is that we have to evolve and change our ways.
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Old 12-23-2009, 06:05 PM
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With all due respect,
If i have blood or any circulatory system , regardless of how much evolved i am no different from human in regards to torture and feelings.

Having said all that i am just as guilty !
Because i keep fish in a glass box and I eat sushi.
What i am trying to say is that we have to evolve and change our ways.
Well that's not a bad way to look at things I guess...better than much of the world these days that have absolutely no regard for animal OR human life I disagree about evolution having nothing to do with feelings but agree, no animal deserves to be tortured.

It's a cultural difference. I was in China a few years ago with my father and saw rabbits being killed by smashing their heads on the pavement in front of little kids playing on the street in a market, the kids don't even look twice. Coming from Canada myself, I had a very hard time visiting many parts of Asia. The commercial, tourist cities were great but some of the smaller towns and villages I just couldn't deal with watching how animals were treated. My father has lived in Asia for a few years now and has said its the one main reason he wants to come back to Canada asap.

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Old 12-22-2009, 07:43 PM
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how about them baby seals we club up in the artic??? ehhh!!
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Old 12-23-2009, 05:43 AM
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That is very sad and cruel! I can't believe people can eat the poor fish while it is still alive and leave it there in front of them, while they are eating his body in front of him. I've seen plenty of vids like this and they just seem so wrong. =(
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Old 12-23-2009, 08:09 AM
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If we would really be so good to our fish we would Not keep it in the glass box to begin with.

When we buy anything that is worm blooded from LFS we are just as same,

When we buy a dog and cut its ears off or a tail (because it looks better that way), we are just as same, How about removing cat's claws? how would that feel.
lets face it, we the people, we don't realize what we do, and most of it is for profit or entertainment.
Wow!
The only thing that you,ve mentioned here that has no purpose is ear docking. This practice is being frowned on by many breeders now.
All of the stuff you've mentioned are(now days) done by people who are animal physicians. Maybe you've heard of them? In most cases the procedures that you mention are done to increase the pets quality of life They don't remove dew claws, dock tails, spay and let them run around while they giggle like little school girls. Killing animals for food is something that we do, but when we remove the flesh off of a living thing and then watch it squirm, swim or wiggle while we eat it...... That makes us animals. There is no plus to doing this. The fish, frog or invertabrate doesn't get any fresher. It won't taste any better than if you had just killed it. If the amount of suffering is proportional to the quality of the meal, there's serious issues that have nothing to do with food and everything to do with old world thinking and a lack of understanding.
Nothing is gained by watching a living creature suffer.
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If any of you know me personally or just from facebook, you know my dogs hit the jackpot when they ended up with me. Yes, my rotties tail is docked. It was done when she was a day old. Yes, she is spayed and I made some hard choices in going through with it. However, it was best for her in the end, and there were no puppies. My dogs get the best of everything, from human grade food I prepare for them and they are my business partners.

It is not always best for all animals, but to say pet owners are cruel is out of line. I love my dogs more then anything else in this universe, and it shows in how they behave themselves and how we interact.
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Aggree with you Diana!

I also believe that tail docking serve a purpose. To prevent injuries, have you ever seen a rottie with a broken tail ? I have....not pretty at all.
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If the amount of suffering is proportional to the quality of the meal, there's serious issues that have nothing to do with food and everything to do with old world thinking and a lack of understanding.
Nothing is gained by watching a living creature suffer.
I agree 100%. I know with the dolphins, the Japanese believe that the more they suffer (slower or painful death), the better they taste
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It's all relative. I can imagine the videos out there about Canadian animal killing practices. Check out all the Canadian Salmon that suffocate to death in ship holds. How about the baby Canadian seals? Disrespectful Canadian hunters? Canadian slaughter houses...oh I've seen those videos, not pretty. There are a lot of animals suffering out there in all countries...

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I know with the dolphins, the Japanese believe that the more they suffer (slower or painful death), the better they taste
Where do you get that info??
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