worked out how much I made in Afghanistan per Day

[christyf5]

Really Mike, we were so close...

[Pan]

Originally Posted by asmodeus

Well my friend well said to a point however the Canadian army isn’t in Iraq, we are in Afghanistan
My tank is like the way is it due to the time and effort that i put into it over the last 7 years from watching other people make mistakes and not doing what they have done. And a lot of time and patience
To the money thing. I have 20 yrs in the Forces and put my self to the limits all the time. I’m 39 soon to be 40 yrs old this April 24th and I’m in a lot better shape then a lot of young soldiers in out unit. Now that where I'm at now my pay is pretty good. However I was stating that the Army does not get a lot of extra money for going over Sea's. Yes we don’t get to pay taxes for 6 months while we are deployed there. However the troops that are in battle there should see a lot more extra's for putting their life on the line every time that they are out side the wire. Making that little extra doesn’t make that much of a huge difference. Soyour comment about the tank really has no bearing on my over sea pay. A lot of civilian people don’t have a clue what training that we go thru to end up before deploying over sea for 7 months at a time. I’m not here to point fingers at you so you know that. It takes around 134 months to be operational ready to deploy of to Afghanistan. there is a lot of time away from your families too. But what I was getting at was for 77 dollars extra per day,
You are away from your family,
Alone,
Shot at,
Shitty boil in the bag food,
Showers may be 10 in 7 months,
Get blown up,
Killed
Watching a buddy get shot,
You get shot.
Having a life altering decisions to make
Having post dramatic stress disorder. AKA PDSD
All for that extra money
or 77 dollars per day.

JOINED THE ARMY...duh

[Scavenger]

Originally Posted by Pan

JOINED THE ARMY...duh

Yes and it's those that joined, fought and died that ensure your right to voice your opinion, live free and have every right entitled to a Canadian citizen. Some how I don't think "Duh" quite lives up to that.

[Aquattro]

Yes, we all thank Mike and his team for what they do, however the point made above is that when joining the military, you knew you were going to get paid your pay, and that people we're going to try and kill you. Not a job I would take, so ya, thanks, but if you took it, enjoy it. right?

I think the whole point here is that Mike is trying to get us to send him money so he can buy yet another skimmer. So let's all have fun, feel bad for Mike and hope somehow he can get his new skimmer.

(good try Mike)

[Pan]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Yes, we all thank Mike and his team for what they do, however the point made above is that when joining the military, you knew you were going to get paid your pay, and that people we're going to try and kill you. Not a job I would take, so ya, thanks, but if you took it, enjoy it. right?

I think the whole point here is that Mike is trying to get us to send him money so he can buy yet another skimmer. So let's all have fun, feel bad for Mike and hope somehow he can get his new skimmer.

(good try Mike)

I can't buy a bubble king skimmer....even on 77 dollars a day....

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by Pan

I can't buy a bubble king skimmer....even on 77 dollars a day....

Don't worry about it, get a good ol' ER.

[Pan]

Originally Posted by Scavenger

Yes and it's those that joined, fought and died that ensure your right to voice your opinion, live free and have every right entitled to a Canadian citizen. Some how I don't think "Duh" quite lives up to that.

Sigh...

The duh was part of the I joined the army certain things are expected...
Stop putting fought and died for in messages to somehow try and add weight to your argument. The simple fact is everything he listed in his message as "army life" ie food in bags being shot at etc is part of army life. If one joins the army not knowing these things are going to happen as a result of recieving your paycheck...frankly your ill-informed....being ill-informed is the sole responsibility or lack thereof...of every soldier in every army in the world. The duh was simply meant as "you joined the army and didn't know what to expect"

Please take your blind support for military personal...shelve it....pay attention to what you read....define things in the world for yourself....\

No where did i say the military was bad....simply that being uninformed of ones decisions is no ones fault but your own. Had asmodeus joined the military and been promised more money and they reneged...find....but somehow i think this is not the case....given his SURPRISE at finding out what he caught paid. If anyone else had come on saying they worked for a company and were surprised at their pay...most would question whether they knew what they were going to be paid before they started....it being the army or being shot at doesn't not change this fact....he chose the job, anyone for that matter who complains about a part of a job they knew they would have to put up with and don't quit that job...the onus is sort of on them.



on a side note...a conscripted army is far different than a volunteer army...no one deserves to die...but joining and being made to join are different...i use this example to please get you to seriously consider the "VOLUNTEERED" part of asmodeus's problem.....

[Scavenger]

Originally Posted by Pan

Sigh...

The duh was part of the I joined the army certain things are expected...
Stop putting fought and died for in messages to somehow try and add weight to your argument. The simple fact is everything he listed in his message as "army life" ie food in bags being shot at etc is part of army life. If one joins the army not knowing these things are going to happen as a result of recieving your paycheck...frankly your ill-informed....being ill-informed is the sole responsibility or lack thereof...of every soldier in every army in the world. The duh was simply meant as "you joined the army and didn't know what to expect"

Please take your blind support for military personal...shelve it....pay attention to what you read....define things in the world for yourself....\

No where did i say the military was bad....simply that being uninformed of ones decisions is no ones fault but your own. Had asmodeus joined the military and been promised more money and they reneged...find....but somehow i think this is not the case....given his SURPRISE at finding out what he caught paid. If anyone else had come on saying they worked for a company and were surprised at their pay...most would question whether they knew what they were going to be paid before they started....it being the army or being shot at doesn't not change this fact....he chose the job, anyone for that matter who complains about a part of a job they knew they would have to put up with and don't quit that job...the onus is sort of on them.

We all have a right to voice our opinions. I did just that as you have. I truly believe what I wrote and did not embellish to add weight to my arguement.
Also, I would not call my support of the military "blind." After about 1 year of research and life changing thought. I am proud to say, my paperwork has been submitted as to my joining the Canadian Forces Reserves.
And no, not every soldier in the world chose their job. In fact, I'd say a very large number had it thrust upon them.

[Pan]

Originally Posted by Scavenger

We all have a right to voice our opinions. I did just that as you have. I truly believe what I wrote and did not embellish to add weight to my arguement.
Also, I would not call my support of the military "blind." After about 1 year of research and live changing thought. I am proud to say, my paperwork has been submitted as to my joining the Canadian Forces Reserves.
And no, not every soldier in the world chose their job. In fact, I'd say a very large number had it thrust upon them.

1. Again...we are not talking about every soldier in the world...
2. I was in the reserves...never combat but...i got to drive a nice western star....and as a civilian contractor...quit went to university
3. By blind i meant the way in which it seemed like you agreed...being in army does not deserve special treatment ie. he joined he shoulkd have figured out his pay before....(again asumming no one reneged on wages...the responsibility lies with them) by bringing up the "fought and died for our country" part you came across as the military deserve special status because of this, as such it would seem you think because they fight and die they deserve special status..ie looking past the fact it is volunteer, their pay rate is known to them etc etc...by overlooking this fact i agree with my statement of "blind". It is not a personal i think anyone who fails to see the whole picture should be called blind....

But whatever...join or don't...be careful if you do...now anyone who has read this thread can't complain when they get meals in a bag and shot at if they join the military and are deployed in combat...

[Doug]

Myka, its not called brown nosing to the USA, its called out commitment to NATO. Thats the force that there. Its just to bad that the other NATO countries, {except for Britian and a few others}, wont let their troops peek out from behind their protective barriers. As far as I,m concerned, the next time one of them need us, {being Canada, Britian, & the USA}, we should tell them sorry.

Thats the really sad thing about us being there. That and the USA troops being in Iraq instead of Afganistan, but thats another story and not for a Canreef lounge.