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Old 03-21-2002, 12:55 AM
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Hi,

Excessive magnesium concentrations can cause the alk to drop and your pH to become unstable. The reason is because magnesium precipitates when magnesium ppm is too high and it brings the alk down along for the ride. Of course, your case isn't very servere since the magnesium isn't precipitating at a very fast rate (i.e. snow fall or calcium deposits on the glass). Without test kit for magnesium...it can lead to problems.

In the past (early 90s) magnesium ppm drop used to be a problem. This is because magnesium will slowly precipitate over time. However, new salt mixes have higher than normal magnesium levels to balance this effect. So, your friend may be correct in supplementing magnesium in the past, but it is no longer required today.

The reason why I am asking about the Xenia is because Xenia's actually don't do well with low pH tanks. It is just another indicator of low pH. In my experience, they grow like weeds in high pH tanks and very slowly in lower pH tanks.

I would take some of your tank water and put it in a bucket. Let it settle for a couple of hours and then measure the pH. This pH level is the pH of the tank water without CO2. If this level is higher than your usual measurements, then you probably have low water/air circulation.

I would also make a small batch of fresh salt water and measure that pH. If that pH is low...then well...you know what the problem is. Either the test kit is screwed or you have a bad mix.

Hope that helps.

- Victor.

[ 20 March 2002, 20:56: Message edited by: reefburnaby ]
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Old 03-21-2002, 02:34 AM
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Thanks for the info and advice Victor, very much appreciated. I'm going to hold off for a while with the supplements and just drip Kalk. I think a couple of new test kits are in order too. I'm going to pick up some calibrating fluid tomorrow and recalibrate my PH monitor. My Zenia are doing great so maybe it's off a bit. I'll test tomorrow and post the results. Once again thanks.

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Old 03-22-2002, 11:13 PM
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Tested the water last night and got a result of 2.2 alk. I did a 30 gal water change earlier in the day with only a slight rise in PH to 8.2. Good news is it didn't drop lower than 7.95 overnight. I have 2X20watt NO growlights on my sump which run 24/7.
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Old 03-23-2002, 12:03 AM
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Hi,

Is that 2.2 dkH or meq/l ?

In any case, that is a bit low for dkH or meq/l. It should be around 8 to 12 dkH or 3 to 4 meq/l.

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