I think we should step back a bit

[Der_Iron_Chef]

Originally Posted by hawk

A good mod is like good referee. At the end of the game you shouldn't have even noticed him/her being there. We are all (most anyway) adults and really don't need to be treated as school kids or even worse needing a babysitter as was previously mentioned.

I'm frustrated...but I'm politely frustrated

Mods wouldn't need to treat people like school kids if people didn't sometimes behave like school kids. Mature grown ups don't hurl nasty epithets and degrading sarcastic remarks at others. Or at least they shouldn't.

When you join an online board, you have to agree to certain terms and conditions. If we all followed those terms and conditions, we'd all have spared ourselves a lot of time reading and responding in this thread, and could have spent the time cleaning our glass or daydreaming about starphire and deltecs and vortechs. Mmmm.....

[hawk]

Any group of people, I don't care who they are from Quakers to politicians are going to have disagreements, some will turn to arguments, some of those will get heated. Just the way the world works my friend. To expect that Canreef or any board is going to 100% free of conflict is ridiculous. People need to stop making mountains out of molehills. Canreef has a good membership and is run well, to tighten things up further will be a real shame.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by Der_Iron_Chef

I'm frustrated...but I'm politely frustrated

Mods wouldn't need to treat people like school kids if people didn't sometimes behave like school kids. Mature grown ups don't hurl nasty epithets and degrading sarcastic remarks at others. Or at least they shouldn't.

When you join an online board, you have to agree to certain terms and conditions. If we all followed those terms and conditions, we'd all have spared ourselves a lot of time reading and responding in this thread, and could have spent the time cleaning our glass or daydreaming about starphire and deltecs and vortechs. Mmmm.....

Well since everyone else is commenting, I will say "amen" and "thank-you" for that post.

[hawk]

Originally Posted by hawk

A good mod is like good referee. At the end of the game you shouldn't have even noticed him/her being there. We are all (most anyway) adults and really don't need to be treated as school kids or even worse needing a babysitter as was previously mentioned.

I should clarify, when I said "not notice him/her" I meant in the capacity of mod. Mod contributions to regular threads are an obvious benefit to the community.

[justinl]

yes i agree that a mod is like a good ref. but even good referees have to say "this is where i draw the line, this is where i step in." there are set rules (set by the owner of the board), mods keep the rules, we abide to them. if we dont abide to the rules and insist on making our own, then theres no point in having the ref to keep them are there? sometimes a ref HAS to step in, not because they want to or because they simply can, but because the players themselves are out of line.

thankfully, i find that our "refs" dont need to step in as often as in some other boards.

NR stands for nano-reef. great site for nano aquariums... obviously. www.nano-reef.com

[Doug]

Originally Posted by rigger11

times change this site is not going to be the same now as it was back in 01
the staff needs to see that and abapt with the change instead of just shooting down ideas of what members of the bord want to see.....
poll the members to see what they would like to see on the bord.......

So what exactly does this mean then, if its not a direct challenge to the staff for not changing with the times. {whatever that means}.

Thanks

[rigger11]

Originally Posted by Doug

So what exactly does this mean then, if its not a direct challenge to the staff for not changing with the times. {whatever that means}.

Thanks

it is a direct challenge to change with the times.....

i just never said you should move over for "new" mods just for you (i say this as a whole) to change the way things are taken care of on here!

[Doug]

Thanks for all the good comments and support. Believe me, its appreciated by the staff. Well said Anthony. We are just aquarists, trying to help keep our great "aquarium" board on track. And speaking for myself, I have been in a few heated debates over the years, on various boards, so I dont speak from some kind of "holier" staff position.

I still have trouble understanding some of the problems we have on aquarium boards, mostly over off topic discussions. Thats not the main purpose of this board. As others said above, there are boards for that and lounge,s on certain reef boards where you enter at your own risk.

Why would one not go there and argue if thats their wish.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by rigger11

times change this site is not going to be the same now as it was back in 01
the staff needs to see that and abapt with the change instead of just shooting down ideas of what members of the bord want to see.....
poll the members to see what they would like to see on the bord.......

oh god, enough already. We're not having a vendor rating forum, so stop.

[rigger11]

Originally Posted by reef_raf

oh god, enough already. We're not having a vendor rating forum, so stop.

i didnt bring it up,you did, sounds to me as if your still stuck on it