I think we should step back a bit

[rigger11]

" Guess I have been here to long to change. Just an old fart. Guess us old ones had better move aside for new staff,"

never said that or implied it, jsut need to be more open about what the members of the bord would like to see. its quit apparent that more then just a few of the members think of you guys *** "censoring********"

[fishoholic]

Originally Posted by Doug

And what may that be. Yea, we just shoot down the ideas. Especially the ones that would make discussions like this even more frequent.

Guess I have been here to long to change. Just an old fart. Guess us old ones had better move aside for new staff, that can make dramatic changes in the board. Oh yea, of course one would need to get that past the owner first.

Personally I think you are doing a good job. Sometimes people on here as in everyday life are annoying (I'm sure myself included at times) and things being said are going to spark emotions. I don't know to many people who haven't crossed the line at some point in their life or at least come a little to close to it. Face it I usually can tell when I have done this is, so I'm sure others can as well. That is why we have mods to keep us in line, kind of like a principal at school but with a better sense of humor There are of course politer ways to disagree with one another but there are times when you know you could/should of but just don't want to.

[justinl]

Ill say that i think that this particular board is the best one around. well managed and well looked after. i doubt very much that new members want to join into canreef to be harassed without some kind of guardian angel over them.

if we wanted a board without mods, then NR is just a click away. I do frequent NR, because i dont mind it too much, but if it were up to me, I would keep canreef just the way it is now.

as fishoholic pointed out, sometimes we just spew garbage, if we dont think. ...or even if we DO think and just decide to do it anyways. Im guilty of it. Im sure most of us are, and Im not terribly proud of it. I think dealing with disagreements in a civilised manner (PM or otherwise) is not a gut wrenchingly difficult thing to do and if we aren't capable of it... well, like i said, NR is a great place to vent.

[hawk]

Originally Posted by fishoholic

That is why we have mods to keep us in line, kind of like a principal at school but with a better sense of humor.

A good mod is like good referee. At the end of the game you shouldn't have even noticed him/her being there. We are all (most anyway) adults and really don't need to be treated as school kids or even worse needing a babysitter as was previously mentioned.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by rigger11

times change this site is not going to be the same now as it was back in 01
the staff needs to see that and abapt with the change instead of just shooting down ideas of what members of the bord want to see.....
poll the members to see what they would like to see on the bord.......

So what exactly does this mean then, if its not a direct challenge to the staff for not changing with the times. {whatever that means}.

Thanks

[rigger11]

Originally Posted by Doug

So what exactly does this mean then, if its not a direct challenge to the staff for not changing with the times. {whatever that means}.

Thanks

it is a direct challenge to change with the times.....

i just never said you should move over for "new" mods just for you (i say this as a whole) to change the way things are taken care of on here!

[Doug]

Thanks for all the good comments and support. Believe me, its appreciated by the staff. Well said Anthony. We are just aquarists, trying to help keep our great "aquarium" board on track. And speaking for myself, I have been in a few heated debates over the years, on various boards, so I dont speak from some kind of "holier" staff position.

I still have trouble understanding some of the problems we have on aquarium boards, mostly over off topic discussions. Thats not the main purpose of this board. As others said above, there are boards for that and lounge,s on certain reef boards where you enter at your own risk.

Why would one not go there and argue if thats their wish.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by rigger11

times change this site is not going to be the same now as it was back in 01
the staff needs to see that and abapt with the change instead of just shooting down ideas of what members of the bord want to see.....
poll the members to see what they would like to see on the bord.......

oh god, enough already. We're not having a vendor rating forum, so stop.

[rigger11]

Originally Posted by reef_raf

oh god, enough already. We're not having a vendor rating forum, so stop.

i didnt bring it up,you did, sounds to me as if your still stuck on it

[fishoholic]

Originally Posted by Joe Reefer

So now we just make fun of Fudge at his expense, is this any better.

As long as he knows we're just teasing him and it's all good natured, then YES Besides, he set himself up with the cape comment!