The Most Worthless Thread on Canreef

[justinl]

i know eh! ...yeah. okay that's all for now

[j-roc]

Originally Posted by Ruth

No fair - foul - penalty - you guys waited until I was out of town for the weekend then start padding!

That's wierd...cause i heard you've been padding since jr. High.



Sorry i couldn't resist.

[justinl]

"That's wierd...cause i heard you've been padding since jr. High."

oh... snap.

[BCOrchidGuy]

caustic soda is an Acid that's used to raise the pH of mud?? does that mean it's less acidic than the mud.. or a more alkaline acid? Oh my, hope I don't look more confused than normal.

Doug...

ps Wonder how many posts I have now.

[justinl]

time for a lil science boys and girls!

what is pH (i hope you know this already)? It is the "partial Hydrogen" in a solution. That means that protons aka Hydrogen ions (H+) occupying a volume of liquid. So where does H+ come from? well there are two kinds of chemicals called acids (pH less than 7) and bases (pH greater than 7). pH is different from a "concentration" (like ppm) in that it's a logarithmic function... it's backwards! so a pH of 1 is satrated with H+ and a pH of 14 (max pH) is very very low in H+. every increment of 1 is an increase tenfold in H+.

Take muriatic acid for example: HCl. when in an aqueous solution (contains water) the HCl partially breaks apart into its ions H+ and Cl-. and pH is the measure of how much H+ is in that solution. Water itself also contributes to pH, hence the neutral pH of 7.

Bases are the H+ deficient form of their acidic cousins. basically they steal H+ from the solution and therefore raise te pH.

fun times! now where was i? oh yeah, if a solution's pH is below 7 it's considered acidic. if it's at 7 its called neutral. if it's above 7 then it's called basic aka alkaline. so to answer your question, there's no such thing as an "alkaline acid". that my friend is an oxymoron!

so about caustic soda. well from a chemistry point of view that makes no sense! if anything caustic soda should drop the pH of mud (which is usually around 7 give or take a bit)

that was a fun rant.

[demon666]

ok the mud i was refering to is not the mud in you backyard it is "DRILLING MUD" which is used in the oil drilling industry to carry drill cuttings to the surface and to maintain an open hole.... the usual ingredents in a gel kem system are bentonite clay caustic or soda ash oh why am i bothering im the only dumb rig hand on here we also use it in our boilers to raise or maintain a ph of 10-10.5 im no derick hand just a motor hand that has to mix the stuff for my lazy derick hand!!!!!!!!:b iggrin:

oh but thanks for the science class i never was that good at chemistry in school so it brought back alot of memories like how many "f" grades i got........... lol

[Doug]

Originally Posted by justinl

time for a lil science boys and girls!

what is pH (i hope you know this already)? It is the "partial Hydrogen" in a solution. That means that protons aka Hydrogen ions (H+) occupying a volume of liquid. So where does H+ come from? well there are two kinds of chemicals called acids (pH less than 7) and bases (pH greater than 7). pH is different from a "concentration" (like ppm) in that it's a logarithmic function... it's backwards! so a pH of 1 is satrated with H+ and a pH of 14 (max pH) is very very low in H+. every increment of 1 is an increase tenfold in H+.

Take muriatic acid for example: HCl. when in an aqueous solution (contains water) the HCl partially breaks apart into its ions H+ and Cl-. and pH is the measure of how much H+ is in that solution. Water itself also contributes to pH, hence the neutral pH of 7.

Bases are the H+ deficient form of their acidic cousins. basically they steal H+ from the solution and therefore raise te pH.

fun times! now where was i? oh yeah, if a solution's pH is below 7 it's considered acidic. if it's at 7 its called neutral. if it's above 7 then it's called basic aka alkaline. so to answer your question, there's no such thing as an "alkaline acid". that my friend is an oxymoron!

so about caustic soda. well from a chemistry point of view that makes no sense! if anything caustic soda should drop the pH of mud (which is usually around 7 give or take a bit)

that was a fun rant.

Hey, thats to serious for this dumb thread. Be careful. No serious postings in a stupid thread or it will be deleted.