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Old 03-21-2007, 06:40 AM
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my dry food is not on the list.... we feed benefuil dry and ol'roy caned and pouched foods.... yes ol'roy is on the list but not the specific type i feed....... and we get our dog food at walmart and superstore
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Old 03-21-2007, 01:51 PM
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Premium foods may still be premium foods, reading the press release by the company (Fund) in question they say they make their own and sell it for repackaging but they also make food to contract for other companies.

My only concern with feeding raw chicken is there is always the possibility of steroids being present plus antibiotics and other garbage we don't want. FWIW my brother had an issue almost a year ago, they are feeding their dog a food available ONLY through a vet, my brothers wife and dog both got ecoli from the dog food. I guess what I'm saying is, no matter how hard you we try to do the right thing for our pets there is always a risk of something going wrong.

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Whether you buy it direct from the seller or retail from Costco/Safeway etc. those same things are likely to be in any retail meat/chicken. That is why they go to the Hutterite colony for organic. I am going to go that route for my pooches this spring when they do another cull.
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Our Dogs get Royal Canin Mini Dachshund and mini puppy.
How do they like that. We are thinking of switching our 6month old weiner to it. He is a reg. though, so larger and is still on a puppy food.
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If you are looking for a good non contaminated food I would highly recommend Acana or Orijin. Its made in Morinville, Alberta, so no worries about contamination, it came recommended to us from the Edmonton Humane Society and it was also recommended by our vet.
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Thanks Michika, I'll look into that stuff. Sadly there are no Hutterite communities that I am aware of around here and I doubt I'd find a listing in the phone book (joke).

My personal observations with my Whippet are, when I feed a premium food he has about half to a quarter of the stool he has when fed food from Costco/Walmart/Safeway etc... When I fed him raw chicken and a veggie mix in the morning his stool was looser but if I didn't clean it up with in a couple of days it would turn solid and when I did try to pick it up it would crumble into dust. In the summer his stool would be white by the next day and again turn to powder. Even with premium dry food his stool lasts for a long time and it's stinky and messy to clean up.

With my dog being a Whippet he doesn't like the winters, he's not fond of autumn or early spring either. When I feed him raw chicken he likes to play with it a bit, drop it on the ground/floor etc... I can't feed it to him indoors or he'd get raw chicken all over the carpets so I have to feed it to him outside. I'm thinking I'll build him a dog house this spring, maybe he'd take it in there to eat it when the weather turns ugly.

If anyone does want to try the raw food recipes do a google search on alternative dog food or cat food. Raw Meaty Bones (RMB) is another good search. One thing I found is that apple cider vinegar added to the chicken makes the bones rubbery PLUS it is an excellent healthy addition to most dog and cats diets.

http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/acvfordogs.html

Of the 22 minerals essential for health, apple cider vinegar contains 19 in exactly the right amounts. *Some* of these minerals are potassium, phosphorus, sodium, magnesium, sulphur, iron, copper, silicon and pectin. ACV also contains natural malic and tartaric acids which are important in fighting body toxins and inhibiting unfriendly bacteria.

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Good posts here..... Making your own food is an excellent idea. You can best trust the quality of the food you produce above all others.

I find that if a dog on raw has consistently loose or very dry stools it is likely the amount of bone/calcium. Loose would need more bone and dry/dust would need less. However it can also be linked to organ meat content.

A basic recipe that works well for dogs or cats is:
Beef roast
Beef liver, kidney, & heart. Green tripe if you can get it.
Fruit & veg puree.
Ground bone, chicken carcass works very well.

For dogs, 75% to 85% Meat (20% to 30% of this volume is organ meats) & 25% to 15% fruit & veg puree.

For cats, 95% to 100% Meat (20% to 30% of this volume is organ meats) & 5% to none fruit & veg puree.

Cut up beef and organs, add 20% to 30% ground bone, appropriate amount of fruit & veg puree. Not hard but can be a little time consuming to do it the proper way. Many types of meats can be used and the wider verity of organ meats the better. If no organ meat is available you need to add other vitamins and such.

Evey animal is an individual and so it is a great idea to make their food for them and learn what works for them and what does not.

Cooked recipes can be found on the net just as easily as many other raw food recipes. Cooked recipes require a lot more additives to replace what is lost in the cooking.

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