Flame didn't make it... Need new fish suggestions. - Page 2

howdy20012002 · #1 03-16-2006, 06:52 PM

In the reading i have done, you can apparently rid your tank of ick by having it without fish for a month
the parasites require a host to live.
Without the fish to host them, they apparently die. I personally have held off on putting any fish into one of my tanks for 2 months after i lost the whole tank to what i believe was velvet.
A UV light will help rid the tank of it as well and it will help kill off the parasites while they pass thru the light
If you take the stuff you currently have in ur tank and put it into the other tank without waiting the month, you could very well be bringing the parasite into the new tank as it will basically sit in the sand and on the LR in a dormant state for a period of time.
hope this helps...and of course this could all be wrong..ask five reefers about something and you will get 5 different answers...all of which are right..jk
Neal

Bartman · #2 03-16-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by howdy20012002

In the reading i have done, you can apparently rid your tank of ick by having it without fish for a month
the parasites require a host to live.
Without the fish to host them, they apparently die.
Neal

Neal is right here. If your fish had Ick then your tank has Ick now. The stage where you can see spots on your fish is only one stage of Ick. Those spots, or spores, will fall off your fish and lay dormant for 4-5 weeks after which they will go looking for another host to start the cycle again. If there are no fish the Ick dies. If fish are present you have another 6 weeks of Ick. You can cure the fish but the only way to deal with Ick is to run your tank fishless for 6 weeks or more. When you switch to your new tank might be the ideal time to do this.

Xtasia · #3 03-16-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by howdy20012002

In the reading i have done, you can apparently rid your tank of ick by having it without fish for a month
the parasites require a host to live.

I've read this too... but they say 6 weeks to acheive the full life cycle. Some say to turn up the heat a few degrees too in an effort to speed up the process. Better to err on the side of caution. I'd clear all your fish out, run the UV if oyu have one and let all the things in your existing tank run fishless for 6 weeks before transferring it into your new tank.

OCDP · #4 03-16-2006, 09:38 PM

This sounds like the best idea.. and the smartest time to do so.

While leaving the tank fishless... do I need to treat any of my current fish?? Read the above post for more info.. none of them show signs of ick, ever.

Thanks Xtasia.

OCDP · #5 03-16-2006, 09:43 PM

Oldguy,

I'm afraid you're wrong. Obviously the first thing I did after the fish died was check paramaters. And to clarify, I do weekly and sometimes even more than once a week water changes of 5g. I also skim on the heaviest setting with an AquaC Remora.

And well let's put it this way... if I can have a 20g tank full of thriving SPS , then that should be a somewhat good indicator to me that the paramaters in my tank are pretty good.

Definitely no ammonia spike. Everyone in my tank get's along very well... I have never had any problems.

OCDP · #6 03-16-2006, 09:47 PM

Xtasia,

What do you mean QT your fish unless switching tanks, then dont bother?? You mean if I am switching tanks, do not QT at all?

I was thinking of QT'ing all fish regardless when I switch to a new tank.. all fish right now are fine and showing no ick at all.

I feed garlic regularly, and since the addition of my new Flame, I fed garlic every day I had it (maybe I missed one day max) I always soaked mysis and various flakes. It ate every time but Tuesday evening.

I usually clean my sandbed weekly as well, not vacuuming though, although I only have a 1-2" (max) sandbed.

Squiddy · #7 03-17-2006, 12:34 AM

I added a Flame to my tank back in January and lost the Flame, a Regal Tang, Kole Tang, Blue Damsel and Coral Beauty all within 3 days to a disease that looked very much like Ich. The only fish that made it through were my two Perculas... both of which are still doing fine. I wish I had an explanation for it all..

Bob I · #8 03-16-2006, 04:57 PM

I am not surprised. A Flame Angel is not considered a very good choice for a tiny 20 gallon tank.

OCDP · #9 03-16-2006, 05:06 PM

Bob, there is no use posting in my threads as your on my ignore list. Sounds familiar dosen't it?

The thing was it looked healthy when purchased , and fine in my tank for a few days then I noticed a spot of ick. Fed every day with Garlic and no problems , all the ick was gone. Then I noticed one or two spots max a few days later.. never anymore than a couple spots.. and continued with the garlic.. it continued to do well. Then it just stopped eating, and next morning was no longer with me.

The bad thing is I still won't be able to QT when I get a new setup... the reason is I have no space for another tank. I could try to make some space.. but it's doubtful.

I like the Royal Gramma idea... thanks, very colorful active fish. Great choice.

I will however, be more careful with the next fish. And it will not be added until the new system is up.

Skimmerking · #10 03-16-2006, 05:04 PM

sorry to hear about your loss man. May be its where you are buying them from could or may have a impact on your livestock. But with me when i had my 62 gal sps all topped out going really good my cucumber decided to take the powerhead express and lick the side of the maxi jet.. Well i came home from work around 3pm in the afternoon.

And my 4 yr old coral beauty was dead in the corner floating there with its mouth open.

It looked like the fish was scared to death it was the only fish that didnt make it weird thou. may be it was spooked from the cuke dying. I know when i got home the cuke was still living because i had to cut him off he was mangled...

So i was kinda in shockness. I did a 20 gal water chanege and everything was good after that .....

go figure.