AEFW WARNING

[smokinreefer]

I hear ya.

Nothing beats precaution.

Just saying, back in the day the only thing I worried about was red flatworms which were just an eyesore & grape caulerpra.

But I don't think I've seen a thread about the grape caulerpra in years!

[Myka]

Originally Posted by smokinreefer

it would be nice to buy from trusted members and be able to drop them in right away! Instant satisfaction!!!

"Trusted members" has nothing to do with it. Every single person on these forums is at risk of infecting their own tank if they are adding corals to their tank. No matter how diligent a person is, at some point something will sneak through. Everyone's tank is "clean" ...until it isn't. I don't actually think that anyone should say their tank is "pest-free". When people ask me, I say "There are no pests in there that I currently know about". I always tell people to dip frags no matter where you get them from - even if you buy them from me. Dipping is your insurance! At the end of the day though, there are very few pests that I am particularly concerned about. AEFW is #1.

[Animal-Chin]

Seriously though, who is it? I bought some AEFW from Oceanic Coral a few years ago and it was the worst issue ever. Watching my acro die as I did weekly dips to try and stop the infestation almost made me give up on this hobby.

I dip every frag I buy by the eggs can make it through the dipping process. This seller should stop selling until they are 100% sure they are not selling infested frags.

[Bblinks]

That name isn't gonna get mentioned unless you want the ban hammer coming down...lol Wardog is always hammer happy....just kidding. Let's just grab our pitchforks and go for a good old witch hunt....burn the tank and house down.

All jokes aside, I am a firm believer on buying only fresh cuts on sps or any other corals that I can cut for that matter. Even stuff with a skeleton like most lps, I would use epoxy or glue to cover all that exposed skeleton after dipping. Frag plugs and maricultured sps colony cement bases are the worst for harbouring aefw eggs and other pests like majano, aiptasia along with nuisance algaes like bryopsis. Never really get why people are adamant to have it on a frag plugs, you are just buying someone else's hidden problems. Don't be a cheap fart trying to save that extra little bit coral by not cutting the base off and end up with pain and suffering for losing your whole tank.

Word of advice, if you are like me and have thousands of dollars invested in the tank, please due diligence when it comes to your tank. No one is to be the blame except for yourself.

[Myka]

Originally Posted by Frogger

list all those hobbyists selling Acroporas that are verified to be from AEFW free systems.

No such thing. You can't verify this. It's buyer beware!

Originally Posted by AquaAddict

Could someone tell me what this acronym means?

Acropora Eating FlatWorms.

Originally Posted by Bblinks

Very good point and attribution. I would love to see this as it is a key factor for me to purchase used stuff on other forums. MODS, upgrade time, Wardog, Mindy, Kien, Titus? Inputs?

This was discussed a number of years ago. I believe the concensus was that we had no way of verifying peoples' claims. That discussion was a long time ago though amd I don't remember for sure. If I get sme time in the next week I'll try to dig it up.

There have been a number of people over the years that have been banned as the result of poor "business ethics" such as those who scam members. I think selling Acros with a known AEFW infestation is pushing that boundary for sure.

[Frogger]

Originally Posted by Myka

There have been a number of people over the years that have been banned as the result of poor "business ethics" such as those who scam members. I think selling Acros with a known AEFW infestation is pushing that boundary for sure.

I think without a doubt that this qualifies as bad business ethics.

[iamfrontosa]

This actually will affect everyone from BC trying to sell their frags on Buy/Sell section..... just saying.

[hunggi74]

Originally Posted by iamfrontosa

This actually will affect everyone from BC trying to sell their frags on Buy/Sell section..... just saying.

Yes because only BC has AEFW. Don't kid yourself.
The intent of post was to make everyone aware that there is a seller selling infected corals and that buyer should beware and dip.

And yes, it would be ethical for him to stop selling until he has eradicated them from his system. But to suggest that nobody is going to buy corals from BC because they have AEFW is just ignorant. No nicer way to say it, sorry.

[iamfrontosa]

Originally Posted by hunggi74

Yes because only BC has AEFW. Don't kid yourself.
The intent of post was to make everyone aware that there is a seller selling infected corals and that buyer should beware and dip.

And yes, it would be ethical for him to stop selling until he has eradicated them from his system. But to suggest that nobody is going to buy corals from BC because they have AEFW is just ignorant. No nicer way to say it, sorry.

No. I did not mean it that way. Sure there AEFW everywhere. but poeple such as myself who many time purchases frags from Greater Vancouver area, will need to really think if 'this' person is the one you mentioned.

I apologize if it came out the wrong way.

I don't even buy frags if I know they come from a tank that has brynopsis. Buying online is basically base on trust.

[Myka]

Originally Posted by George

Like most threads in this forum, the main point started to drift after a while. I think one of the main point of the original post was that someone out there, "knowingly, intentionally, callously sell their frags" infested with AEFW.

Sure, that's dirty. Then many people also commented that it would be silly to assume you're buying "clean" frags regardless where you buy them from, so in the end, buying known "dirty" frags might be better than buying assumed "clean" frags because you'll be much more thorough.