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[Acro]

Ok, now to me the pics Sam just posted the anemones look more on the tan side then the deep brown from Bob's. They are different so I geuss its tough to use these as examples. Clearly Sam and Chris's are the same animal. Though very different in their different homes. One of these days perhaps we'll have to get the deep brown one out this way and see what happens. Although this thread has shifted all directions. It's very intresting. I joined it as I felt some of the talk on lighting was misleadind and IMO wrong. What do I know though? Perhaps nothing. Forsure very little on were this thread has now gone. Hopefully I'll know a little more by the end of the thread.

[reefburnaby]

Hi,

http://biodiversity.uno.edu/ebooks/ch1.html#entac

Also, shape of the anemone may change once the anemone has adapted to captive tanks (like the bubble tip may disappear).


- Victor.

[Bob I]

This is really great. The thread has wandered all over the place. I have about six hours a day where I have time to think deeoly. From the posts, and further reading I have drawn some conclusions. I will not share them on this thread as it will probably become 100 pages long. I have also come up with more questions, but those are more technical in nature, and I am not sure at this time who could answer them. It would have to be someone with theoretical lighting knowledge :?: :?:

[Delphinus]

Hi, very quickly since I have to go catch a plane. BTA's can be without "bubble tips." Victor's link is to Daphne Fautin's and Gerald Allen's book (the online version of their book). This is a very worthwhile read if you have any interest in this topic beyond which we can talk about here. They are the world's foremost authorities on the topic of Pacific species of hosting anemones.

Anyways what makes a BTA a BTA and not a ritteri or a carpet. Things to look out for are the density of tentacles, ratio of size of oral disk to height of oral disk, taper of tentacles, presence of verrurcae on the pedal column, it's habit and choice of substrate. Colour hues can sometimes give a clue too, but that's VERY subjective (basically a "brown" BTA will be a different shade of brown than say a "brown" LTA). It's difficult to enumerate, but each species has its own subtleties that once you know what you're looking at, you can see it, but it is difficult to explain in a hurry (kind of like trying to explain how to "See" those 3-d images in those stereograms). The presence of bubble-tips is typically a clincher, but, the absence of them does not indicate it is not a BTA. Basically there are traits for each species that are sometimes there but not always. For example, LTA's can hold their tentacles in a spiral shape (which explains another common name for LTA which is "corkscrew" anemone). Looking at several example of each, it gets easier to understand what you're seeing. One particular problem I have, for example, is sebaes H. crispa vs. H. malu. I have seen so many photographs that I would swear are the same anemone but some labelled the one and others the other. It suggests to me that even the "experts" have to rely upon a subjective gut feeling at times, but ultimately it must still be guesswork at some level.

Jamie, I never meant to dispute what you said about lighting. When anyone looks at your setup, there can be no doubt in anyone's mind as to whether you know what you're talking about or not. For the record: I would never suggest to anyone that it's OK to use a two-year old bulb. If the animals are photosynthetic, then it's a game of Russian Roulette. Your (and Chris's) advice are sage: always keep your lights new. Unless you have a "Very Good Reason" not to (but as you say, it's an investment to eliminate "possible" damage from old lights.)

Anyways I really, really have to run, would like to talk some more on this topic but it will have to be tomorrow. Thanks guys, talk to you soon.

[Bob I]

Here's a recent picture of old "butt". It was taken a few minutes ago with no light on in the tank. It is daylight supplemented with flash.

[pocilipora]

Emily you just pointed to a post where the anemone didnt have bubble tips and then it did so whats your point? I now have that anemone. You have given no reason to make me or anyone think that yours is a BTA.Its all speculation and a guess. Why dont you ship a clone over here when you get one and see what happens. I seem to have prety good luck at making the one I got from Sam expand quite a bit. Ill pay shipping.

[Bob I]

Play nice now Pocillapora. You have to put smilies in when you are mean like that.

[pocilipora]

[reefburnaby]

Hi,

Theoretical lighting knowledge ? No problem Ask away.
- Victor.

[Bob I]

I am only an ordinary electrician so I do not have all that theory. I will try to put up the post when I get it all straight in my mind.