Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board  

Go Back   Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board > General > Product Review and Equipment Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old 04-14-2006, 12:09 PM
Polyp Lab's Avatar
Polyp Lab Polyp Lab is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 25
Polyp Lab is on a distinguished road
Default

Jaws you are right.

Phosphate levels in an aquarium can not be detected properly with salifert, hagen, aquarium pharmaceuticals etc. kits.

Although fairly expensive to use (and not completely necessary), the only way to get proper phosphate reading is by the use of either

Hanna Colorimeters
Merck Phosphate Kit

I believe the Merck phosphate kit has been rebranded by some aquarium company so it may be more readily available in that version. (I'm not sure of which company rebranded it, we use the original Merck versions at the lab).
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 04-14-2006, 12:46 PM
Ruth's Avatar
Ruth Ruth is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Fort St. John, British Columbia
Posts: 1,605
Ruth is on a distinguished road
Default

I use a Hanna colorimeter to test phosphates in my tanks and can attest to the inaccuracy or I guess inablility of the Salifert and other readily available test kits to test for PO4. I was shocked when I first got the Hanna to realize how much PO4 was actually in my systems that didn't show up on the Salifert.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 04-14-2006, 03:34 PM
StirCrazy's Avatar
StirCrazy StirCrazy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kamloops, BC
Posts: 7,872
StirCrazy is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Polyp Lab
Jaws you are right.

Phosphate levels in an aquarium can not be detected properly with salifert, hagen, aquarium pharmaceuticals etc. kits.
yup something we have been saying for about a year now and we still waist the money on them hehe.

anyways thanks for the reply and I guess the other question I would be interested in seeing either tried out or maybe it already has been, but Jaws asked it at the end of the post you replied to.

"My question is, theoretically, if you didn't have optimal tank conditions, and still had some nutrients in your tank that was causing algae growth, should it not still export the excess nutrients and help starve the nuisance algae?"

I guess it is what happens if you don't follow the requirements religiously, Like for my self when I am posted to ship I sail for up to 4 months at a time, now I can have some one do basic stuff a couple times a week but water changes and daily dosing are out, heck I don't even feed my fish daily, I go every second day so a daily anything is going to be a pain. Am I just not destined to use any produce like this or are they a little forgiving?

Steve
__________________
*everything said above is just my opinion, and may or may not reflect the views of this BBS, its Operators, and its Members. If cornered on any “opinion” I post I will totally deny having ever said this in a Court of Law…Unless I am the right one*

Some strive to be perfect.... I just strive.

Last edited by StirCrazy; 04-17-2006 at 04:32 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 04-14-2006, 03:49 PM
dirtyreefer's Avatar
dirtyreefer dirtyreefer is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Coquitlam
Posts: 299
dirtyreefer is on a distinguished road
Default

Polyp Labs: I accidently left out the Genesis bottle for the afternoon, will this be a problem as it says to keep refrigerated after opening?
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 04-14-2006, 11:23 PM
albert_dao albert_dao is offline
Good Guy Albert
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Richmond
Posts: 3,035
albert_dao will become famous soon enough
Send a message via MSN to albert_dao
Default

Hey Dave, a few questions of my own:

1. Would the use of a UV sterilizer or Ozone have deleterious effects on the RF system?

2. Does RF require substantial amounts of surface area to operate? IE. Does it require live rock or another substrate (bioballs) to produce significant results thus far demonstrated?

3. How does RF interact with refugiums and algae turf scrubbers?



Edit: Nevermind on the first question, I just found the FAQ.
__________________
This and that.

Last edited by albert_dao; 04-14-2006 at 11:26 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 04-15-2006, 12:07 AM
seashells's Avatar
seashells seashells is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Surrey
Posts: 302
seashells is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Polyp Lab
Jaws you are right.



I believe the Merck phosphate kit has been rebranded by some aquarium company so it may be more readily available in that version. (I'm not sure of which company rebranded it, we use the original Merck versions at the lab).
Deltec USA sells the high end phosphate kits. Some where in the neighborhood of a $100 in Vancouver.

Doug
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 04-15-2006, 06:11 AM
sumpfinfishe's Avatar
sumpfinfishe sumpfinfishe is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Langley
Posts: 1,777
sumpfinfishe is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to sumpfinfishe
Default

OK well all I see here is text, somebody has to have some before and after pictures by now
__________________
cheers, Rich

all that we do is touched with ocean,
yet we remain on the shore of what we know
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2005/5/aquarium
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 04-15-2006, 06:42 AM
seashells's Avatar
seashells seashells is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Surrey
Posts: 302
seashells is on a distinguished road
Default

Very nice tank Rich!

Doug
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 04-15-2006, 06:50 AM
muck's Avatar
muck muck is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Edmonton, AB (West)
Posts: 4,329
muck is on a distinguished road
Default

Im with Rich... lets see those before and after shots.
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 04-15-2006, 08:27 AM
Mike Olson's Avatar
Mike Olson Mike Olson is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Abbotsford
Posts: 186
Mike Olson is on a distinguished road
Default

I definitely need to spend money on a new camera! Gotta slow down on the tank though! I will do up a 2 week report here in the next few days. I am still impressed with the product...nitrates are still undetectable and growth has maintained the same levels. The bacterial mats are thriving in the refuge and noticed some on the rock. Not that pretty though! They are not noticeable in the tank at least! At first I wondered what these slimey mats were. My skimmer cup is filling up every 3 days compared to five!
__________________
180g tank(6x2x2) w/170lbs LR, 2-250W 1-400W Halides, 2-3ft t5 Actinics,H&S 1260 200 Skimmer, 1-Tunze 6000stream w/controller, 1-6060stream, 70g sump, 30g refugium Neptune controller, Sequence Hammerhead inline return, Lifeguard 25W UV, 1-Tunze osmolator, 1-Tunze wavebox, 1/4Hp Pacific Coast chiller, MarineTech calcium reactor
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.