mini tank crash....palythoa toxin the cause???

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Originally Posted by chris88

There is no way it is from the palys. I have had them in my tank for years. Massive numbers in a 50g tank. I have cut and crushed tons of the pale green / brown palys right inside of the tank because I do not like them, and they never poison the tank. I think you may have caused an ammonia spike from added a large piece of rock. I honestly do not think it is from the palys but if you want to be safe just run a bunch of carbon.

amonia would show on my test wouldnt it???

besides its not like ive never added rock to my tank before im not new were talking about a 0.5 lb rock which wasnt out of the water for more than five seconds give or take a second and never came from a tank that wasnt taken care of it came from a nice reef and knowlegable reefer friend of mine, water from his tank never hit my tank and i acclimated the palys like i do any coral that goes into my tank i dont think this was a matter of die off from live rock, ive owned palys and zoas and have lots of different kinds so its not the first ones ive ever added and ive had them slime plenty as well but not all palys are the same and not all zoas are the same and being such a small tank who knows what effects they had or how ****ed off they made my other corals. ....


well im home now from work and both elegance and my brain are fully open they def will recover if not already have, ill sure say one thing within 12 hrs of taking the palys out and some water changes/carbon they have made a full come around....coinsidence???? could be the water changes or the fact they werent in there or maybe it was enough time for things to even out again who knows... the only things still not showing are the few zoanthids in there but im sure they will it looks like they are trying.


my thoughts are this.....it was late when i added the palys i had to handle them to coach them into their place in my tank which made them slime, since im not using a skimmer or running carbon aggressively the slime found its way into the usual flow of my tank in turn having to land on each coral and in the water column.the slime probably ****ed off my lps enopugh for them to close tight and caused the more sensitive coarls like sps and gorgs to get hit bad they prob tried to fight back but couldnt compete with the mass amounts the palys were dishing out.there was def some chemical warfare happening you could see it in the water and since im not running a skimmer or any other means of oxygenation during the night time when my ph dropped it prob cause my less hardier critterss to suffer, my clown and chromis were able to take the swing a bit better than my lawnmower and coral banded.


i ****ed off the palys and they did what they would do if they felt threatened they slimed in hopes it would deter me from eating them or invading their space .....i believe my other corals felt this and knew to wait it out for the ones that could anyways and once the water was clean again they have showed out for food and to continue to grow like they are supposed to do.


still a pretty shitty deal but i got to keep my most favorite coral sucks bad i lost my lawnmower and shrimp but it could have been worse.im fragging the palys tonight for a small frag and im gonna hope for the best but it should be fine with any luck

nice to see my elegance fully open under the light cause it really looked bad last night when i went to bed i thought for sure it was gonna be nothing but shell this morning so thats awesome