New frag tank almost done!

[BC Mosaic]

Originally Posted by Myka

.......Doesn't look like a commercial setup to me! That's kinda silly really.......

Ditto.

[Aquattro]

Just a note on sponsor status. If someone is selling frags full time, has a banner signature with a company name linked to a companyname.com website setup to sell said frags, it's a business.
We have several of these businesses that find sponsoring here is a good direction for their advertising dollars, and it isn't fair to allow "hobbyist businesses" to do the same for free.

[Oceanic]

Originally Posted by justinl

nice work! too bad you've crossed the threshold into sponsorville. well rules are rules right?

I feel I have to comment on the stand though. Is it really very sturdy? it just seems a bit flimsy to me.

edit: lol I have the same anniversary dremel kit as you (first pic)

I wasn't sure about the stand either until I put it together, the thing is actually really strong! The bottome of the legs actualy have screw out levelers built into them. The stand is actually very sturdy because of the water and sand volume in the sump on the bottom shelf.

In regards to the dremel, I love the dremel but the aniversary case sucks!

[Oceanic]

Originally Posted by scuglass

Are you sunning a skimmer on this tank? Or just Live rock and Cheato?

I have a deep sand bed in the sump and room for a skimmer, I have not bought the skimmer for this setup yet. I am actually looking at the small Bubble Magus skimmer as the ratings are pretty decent considering the price.

Right now the tank gets about a 30% water change a week just from bagging frags.

[Myka]

Ya I was worried about the stand too! It looks as if it's bending under the weight of the tank...or is the photo playing tricks? That would awfully bad for the tank!

[Oceanic]

Originally Posted by Myka

Looks great! Doesn't look like a commercial setup to me! That's kinda silly really.

I am wondering however, why you chose to use crushed coral as a substrate over BB or sand?

I went with crushed coral in the display in order to prevent a sandstorm when I up the flow. I didn't want to go bare bottom in this little tank because I need all of the surface area I can get due to the non existance of live rock. I hope I made the right choice.

[Myka]

Coulda put live rock in the sump...? You wouldn't need much to make up for filtration since there are few (none?) critters in your frag tank. I bet you could get away with 1/4 lb per gallon. Unless you're gravel vac'ing that CC regularly, you're gonna get nitrate buildup.

[Oceanic]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Just a note on sponsor status. If someone is selling frags full time, has a banner signature with a company name linked to a companyname.com website setup to sell said frags, it's a business.
We have several of these businesses that find sponsoring here is a good direction for their advertising dollars, and it isn't fair to allow "hobbyist businesses" to do the same for free.

I am not selling frags full time, I never have been. I have a goal to do this in the future but as I said before I have given away far more free frags than I have actually collected payment for.

I agree that a website in progress may look like a business but the website is going to be a showcase for my display tank, a blog, and also no doubt an avenue to sell some frags. Am I still a "business" if over half the deals are also trades for something I don't have?

I think that one has to properly discern a "business" for profit, or flipside a small setup like this that helps one pay for the insane amount of money that this hobby can cost an individual. I also enjoy offering my frags for free on occasion in order to help people with crashed tanks, new setups etc. I work more than 70 hours a week at my full time job and hardly consider this a business at this point. If I were a brick and mortar business with 100's of Gallons of frag tanks I could see your position.

It is easy to understand that it is only fair to the other sponsors paying $960.00 a year to not allow "established" businesses free advertising rights here. If I were them I would be upset too; however, in this case I hardly agree.

I would love to sponsor Canreef as it has been a valuable source of information and a great place to meet great people. When I can justify the almost 1K a year I will hop on board no doubt! Until that point, people that want nice frags know where to find me, word of mouth is a good thing. It is nice to have someone like Wicked Frags chime in in regards to this gray area.

One of the funny things is that the person helping me with the website is another Canreef member that I pay in frags to help me, great guy too!

[ElGuappo]

Still need chaeto and sand?

edit: Whoops langley not langdon sorry.

[Oceanic]

Originally Posted by Myka

Ya I was worried about the stand too! It looks as if it's bending under the weight of the tank...or is the photo playing tricks? That would awfully bad for the tank!

I actually saw that in the picture when I posted it and had to check for myself, it is definetly a camera trick, the stand is not bending at all. The stand is actually solid steel. the shelves are all actually straight when measured with my level.

Thanks for the heads up though!