HELP - Fish Illness

[TheReefGeek]

I got him from AI, I did a water change 10% last night.

[Ruth]

There is no proof of any kind that garlic will help a sick fish. IMO it may help entice them to eat but will not "cure" any disease. It is not a natural part of a marine fish diet however it seems to get thrown out there to cure everything from coughs, colds, sore aholes and pimples. If your fish is eating it probably isn't necessary. I do use garlic extract in my fish food but only because they seem to like it and it keeps everyone eating vigorously. From you description I am not sure what is the matter with your fish and I hope it pulls through for you. If it is eating I would suggest just keeping your water quality high and providing a stress free environment. If someone can identify the disease there may me a specific treatment that may help.

[naesco]

A fellow reefer is looking for help in saving a fish in his tank

Ruth there was a study done some time ago and posted. (I can't find it, maybe someone can).
It was done on marine fish. I believe it said that garlic had anti-bacterial, anti-fungal and anti-ich properties. It did not mention colds, pimples etc.

Are you aware of that study? If so, are you aware of any study that refuted that study?

You post that you feed your fish garlic soaked flakes. How healthy are your fish?

Thank you

[bulletsworld]

They have found no scientific evidence to support that garlic is a cure, since the fish does have the ability to gain resistance (immunity) with repeated attacks from a parasite. I doubt we are dealing with a parasite here.

Ruth is very right. Garlic is not a cure but can help. It's good to note as well that not even the manufacture of "Garlic Extreme" and other Garlic drops recommend to try it for treatment against any parasite. It's made to entice picky eaters. Its also not recommended long term as they are studies the effects it causes to fish organs as its Not a natural diet for fish.

Naesco, there are many post you can look back on about the argument if garlic worked or did not work for them. There are also many on the web & research that argues this as well. I would suggest you google. You should have no problems finding it.

As this is about someone else's fish that’s ill, I would urge you not to hi-jack the post on your quest to find out about garlic for your own finding and let's get back to trying to help a fellow reefer here.

thank you.

[bulletsworld]

Originally Posted by Ruth

From you description I am not sure what is the matter with your fish and I hope it pulls through for you. If it is eating I would suggest just keeping your water quality high and providing a stress free environment.

I agree with Ruth here, if the fish is eating, keep water quality high and provide the fish with a stress free environment. I don’t think pulling out of the tank into a QT tank is worth stressing the fish out any more, as it is still a new addition to your tank.

TheReefGeek, I have never come across your problem before with blacken of a Fox face, other then them showing stress & darkening. Another option would be to post your picture on www.reefcentral.com in the disease forum. There are some great biologists over there; perhaps they have come across or seen this before.

Keep us posted. Best of Luck!

[Montana]

Just to let you know i have a yellow tang with black ich and it doesn't look any thing like that the spots on your fish are to tight together it looks more like a bacterial or fungal infection, i agree to post the pic on reef central. after seeing the stress my tang went through after i gave it a fw dip i wouldnt recomend it unless you are sure will help.

[Ruth]

Thanks Lee just about what I would have said. And I also suggest that you post on the disease forum at RC to see if you can get some help in getting the fish to pull through - and keep us posted as it is something that I would like to know if I ever run into it in the future.

[TheReefGeek]

Thanks for all the help and concern everyone. I did post at reef central right after I posted here, no help there though, but posts get lost pretty quick there.

No change in the fish, the grey patches have not grown or expanded, so hopefully they will start to receed soon.

[Myanth]

I have had dark spots on a few of my fish in the last couple of weeks. They seem to be there in the morning and are gone by night time. This morning they are really bad. My powder brown is completely covered and his left eye is clouded. My coral beauty looks to have them too as the purple is blotchy, My three percs have them as well as the dragon Goby. I was having ick issues about two weeks ago as well and have not seen any this week. I started seeing these spots just after I got that macro algea from you Rory. Could be the same stuff. I am trying to get my camera working so I don't have a picture.

I'm worried.
Mike

[TheReefGeek]

Doubt it is the same thing if yours is going away at night, my is constant.
Hopefully you can post some pics and we can compare.

Mine does seem to be fading now though, seems about 1/2 as intense as before, hopefully whatever it is is clearing up.

So far so good with all my other fish too, none of them show any signs of it.