Help on treating ich

[Sumfingwong]

My new DT has broken out into ich, probably from the kole and tomini tang I recently purchased.

I have a 55g I recently shutdown (not completely shut down, it has a heater and powerhead for the LR I am trying to sell)

I am thinking about setting up a 20g tank for all the small fish I have and treat them with cupramine. Then move the bigger puffers, foxface, kole and tomini tang to the 55 (move the LR out) and treat them with cupramine.

If I leave my 145 with the current LR, CuC, SPS and zoas with no fish. Can the ich die off? Or do I need to remove everything?

Thanks all

[daniella3d]

Never treat copper in your main tank and never with liverock as it will be contaminated after that and you won't be able to put any invertabrate in that tank.

If you don't have any coral and invertabrate, you can lower your salinity and treat them with hyposalinity, it is much safer than copper.

If you have coral and invertabrate, clam, anemone etc...then you must buy a larger tank or borrow one from someone to treat all your fish and leave the display tank without any fish for 8 weeks.

This is why a quarantine on all fish is the way to go..it avoid such mess.

[Nano]

I always listen to what she says hahaha. Also once i qt my fish a few weeks down the road i dump a capfull of herbtana in the dt once in a while just to play it safe. Usually a day or two before a water change so there isnt excess stuff in the water. I don't kniw if I'm right or wrong in doing so but i only had the one outbreak, and it was in my dt so that's why I do that. Cause I'm sure there is still ich in my tank and i like to try to keep it at bay.

[MarkoD]

Feed your fish and make sure they're not stressed (due to poor water conditions). And they'll fight it off themselves

[Sumfingwong]

Originally Posted by nanomano

I always listen to what she says hahaha. Also once i qt my fish a few weeks down the road i dump a capfull of herbtana in the dt once in a while just to play it safe. Usually a day or two before a water change so there isnt excess stuff in the water. I don't kniw if I'm right or wrong in doing so but i only had the one outbreak, and it was in my dt so that's why I do that. Cause I'm sure there is still ich in my tank and i like to try to keep it at bay.

As of yesterday, I turned off my skimmer, and treating the tank with Herbtana

Originally Posted by MarkoD

Feed your fish and make sure they're not stressed (due to poor water conditions). And they'll fight it off themselves

I dipped the krill and brine with Seachem garlic guard, every other fish except the puffers ate. Right now, it looks like its affecting the puffers the most.

[MarkoD]

Maybe test your water and try and figure out what's stressing the fish. Do a water change as well maybe.

[naesco]

Originally Posted by Sumfingwong

As of yesterday, I turned off my skimmer, and treating the tank with Herbtana




I dipped the krill and brine with Seachem garlic guard, every other fish except the puffers ate. Right now, it looks like its affecting the puffers the most.

Dipping is not going to do it. You need to soak dry food in garlic extract or Garlic Extreme (I do not know about garlic guard). You need to feed very often and only garlic soaked foods.
The idea is to get as much garlic in the fish as possible.
Don't know about Herbtana. What are the listed ingredients?

[Sumfingwong]

Originally Posted by daniella3d

Never treat copper in your main tank and never with liverock as it will be contaminated after that and you won't be able to put any invertabrate in that tank.

If you don't have any coral and invertabrate, you can lower your salinity and treat them with hyposalinity, it is much safer than copper.

If you have coral and invertabrate, clam, anemone etc...then you must buy a larger tank or borrow one from someone to treat all your fish and leave the display tank without any fish for 8 weeks.

This is why a quarantine on all fish is the way to go..it avoid such mess.

Thanks Daniella, my original question was if it was ok to leave the DT with the CuC and corals alone (not treating the DT) Will the ich eventually die off in a tank with no hosts?

[daniella3d]

Yes it will die off without a fish host (any fish) so leaving it without any fish for 6 weeks at least, better 8 weeks will assure that the ick is gone from your tank. The ick will not be able to live out of your cleaning crew, only on fish.

Originally Posted by Sumfingwong

Thanks Daniella, my original question was if it was ok to leave the DT with the CuC and corals alone (not treating the DT) Will the ich eventually die off in a tank with no hosts?