Cardinals

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Originally Posted by BlueAbyss

I've been considering cardinals... but I want these guys...


I haven't seen red dot cardinals in a store before, but they look nice. Bangaiis are nice too (and endangered)... I don't know of any way to tell the sexes apart, unless they pair up on their own.

I thought stores are only selling tank raised Bangaii now? If not, they are not a fish I will buy.

I saw those Red dot cardinals a while ago on another site and would love them but like you, I have never seen them before in stores.

[Myka]

I think you'd be pushing it with three Threadfins, but my vote goes for them. Bangaiis need to be in a m/f pair, and PJs are ugly imo. I would consider removing the 6-line...I've never been a fan of them (they're pricks when they get bigger), and then the Threadfins would be a great addition. They would be very happy in a set up like that because they won't have any other fish bugging them (the clowns are distracted with their nem).

[noirsphynx]

Originally Posted by Myka

I think you'd be pushing it with three Threadfins, but my vote goes for them. Bangaiis need to be in a m/f pair, and PJs are ugly imo. I would consider removing the 6-line...I've never been a fan of them (they're pricks when they get bigger), and then the Threadfins would be a great addition. They would be very happy in a set up like that because they won't have any other fish bugging them (the clowns are distracted with their nem).

The red spots are really nice too but from what I understand if you can find them they are notoriously hard to keep alive. I've been following a thread on RC and they talk about them starting on pg. 15 http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...&pagenumber=15

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Originally Posted by Myka

I think you'd be pushing it with three Threadfins, but my vote goes for them. Bangaiis need to be in a m/f pair, and PJs are ugly imo. I would consider removing the 6-line...I've never been a fan of them (they're pricks when they get bigger), and then the Threadfins would be a great addition. They would be very happy in a set up like that because they won't have any other fish bugging them (the clowns are distracted with their nem).

Why would it be "pushing it"?

[Myka]

You would be pushing overstocking it, and pushing the aggression. A 34g would be overstocked when all the fish are full grown if you keep the 6-Line in there, plus the 6-Line isn't an ideal tankmate for Threadfins - too aggressive (when mature).

At one time in my 33g I had a breeding pair of Bangaii, a Hector's Goby, and a lone True Perc. It seemed fairly full to me. I despise overstocking for many reasons, but the main two are because I think it's inhumane (for many reasons in itself), and because I loathe to fight nitrate. Also, a smaller tank should be stocked lighter than a bigger one simply because the swimming space isn't there.

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Originally Posted by Myka

You would be pushing overstocking it, and pushing the aggression. A 34g would be overstocked when all the fish are full grown if you keep the 6-Line in there, plus the 6-Line isn't an ideal tankmate for Threadfins - too aggressive (when mature).

At one time in my 33g I had a breeding pair of Bangaii, a Hector's Goby, and a lone True Perc. It seemed fairly full to me. I despise overstocking for many reasons, but the main two are because I think it's inhumane (for many reasons in itself), and because I loathe to fight nitrate. Also, a smaller tank should be stocked lighter than a bigger one simply because the swimming space isn't there.

Inhumane? Give me a break. Your talking about a fine line here. What about this hobby is all that humane (by that thinking)?

Anyways, completely disagree that 3 would be overstocked. They are very small fish.

I agree the sixline needs to go if I do.

We have much different views on stocking I think.

[Ryan]

There are a few articles about looking at the Jawline of a Mature Banggaii to tell the sexes apart.

[Myka]

See PM GSP.

[marie]

I had 4 threadfins for awhile, they don't move around much. For all the real estate they used they could of been in a 20g tank and not noticed the difference in size. Of course I do have a very active tang that might of made them leery about swimming around

[BlueAbyss]

Originally Posted by noirsphynx

The red spots are really nice too but from what I understand if you can find them they are notoriously hard to keep alive. I've been following a thread on RC and they talk about them starting on pg. 15 http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...&pagenumber=15

Thanks for the link, I'll definitely be reading this... I've heard that both the blue streak (same as the blue eyed?) and the red dot cardinals are delicate and ship poorly, or get stressed easily.

Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer

I thought stores are only selling tank raised Bangaii now? If not, they are not a fish I will buy.

I saw those Red dot cardinals a while ago on another site and would love them but like you, I have never seen them before in stores.

Yeah I understand that since Bangaiis are endangered in the wild that most of the stock will be tank raised... there may be some wild stock floating around still, since they were only declared endangered recently.

I've only ever seen Bangaiis in stores as far as Cardinals go, but I haven't been in many LFS since I don't have one here.