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Old 09-27-2008, 06:39 PM
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Default Questions about the use of muriatic acid (HCL)

I plan to use diluted muriatic acid for cleaning some pumps and a skimmer. Also I have a FW plant tank with a glass top that has opaque white lime deposits blocking the light, resistant to all other cleaners, so I want to so a diluted muriatic acid bath for it too.

Some questions about this stuff as it is obviously hazardous.

1. I have read 10:1 dilution 1 part acid added to 10 parts water, is that about right, will a weaker dilution work as well if I give it more time? I'd prefer to use as little of this stuff as possible.

2. Will the muriatic acid eat plastic parts on my pump or eat magnetic pump impellers or metal parts on the pump?

3. I have read to use the muriatic acid outdoors because of the fumes, is this a legitimate concern? I am assuming it gives off chlorine gas which obviously you want to avoid breathing in.

5. After using the diluted muriatic acid is it OK to pour it down the drain and flush with lots of water, or will it eat my plumbing pipes?

Obviously I will suit up with eye protection and rubber gloves. Any other tips on handling this stuff?
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Using it 10:1 is fine. It may corode metal parts if left way too long, probably not a concern. Well ventilated area is smart. To dispose of the water/acid mix, pour a box of baking soda into it to neutralize.

Don't spill it on concrete, it will etch it. Wear glasses and gloves. Keep away from small children. Always add acid to water, not the other way around.
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:42 PM
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Why not use vinegar?
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Default 2nd that vote for vinegar

Works surprisingly well. I soak my pumps in vinegar on a regular basis to get rid of the calcium buildup.
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HCl is non reactive with placstic but it will takeany protectice coating on metalls off. It should not hurt the metal at a 10:1 dilution unless you left it in the acid for many hours or even days. Care when making your dilutions that you add in the correct order( water to acid ) and not vis versa as the wrong order causes a highly vigorous reaction that can pop and spray. For sur use Eye protection and gloves when working with it.
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Default Muratic Acid = Hydrochloric Acid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrochloric_acid

When you say 10:1 dilution ration it really is not descriptive if you do not know the original strength of the HCl. Industrial HCl would rot your sinus and lungs just by pouring from the bottle. This stuff is really bad for you and the environment.

Take the advice of others here, use vinegar and lots of elbow grease.
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HCl is non reactive with placstic but it will takeany protectice coating on metalls off. It should not hurt the metal at a 10:1 dilution unless you left it in the acid for many hours or even days. Care when making your dilutions that you add in the correct order( water to acid ) and not vis versa as the wrong order causes a highly vigorous reaction that can pop and spray. For sur use Eye protection and gloves when working with it.
Ian, you mean acid to water, not water to acid.
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