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			 Lets discuss our removal method successes and failures here.  I'm trying to go next level and I'm not sure what method I want to try, lots of info online, lots of scary stories. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	I have a 125 6 foot tank stocked with 9 fish. My fish are pigs so I feed daily and I feed frozen food (Mysis, clam, krill, brine, silversides). When my tank had like 4 fish, I had no phos or nitrates, sparkling clean sand. Now, my phosphates are .o2 (no biggie) but my nitrates are about 10. This makes me nervous...lol I run Rowa Phos in a reactor, this seems to work great for phosphates. For nitrates I have my skimmer rated for 150 gallons and a refugium PACKED full of cheato. This did the trick for a smaller bioload but doesn't hold the nitrates down anymore. I have a small CUC (10 turbos, 5 hermits, 1 tiger tail cucumber if its alive) and I do weekly 15 gallon water changes. Where should I go from here? Vodka? Red Sea NoPx? Bio Pellets? Aquaforest Salt? What do you use? How well does it work? What would you never do again?  | 
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			 I use Zeo. Damn expensive but I get good results for no3 and po4. Not a huge bioload of fish however. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 I use GFO to keep my phosphates down, and bio-pellets to keep nitrates at near zero. I also use MB7 with my bio pellets to prevent mulm and cyano. Works great for me. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Go to post #30 of my journal (link below) to see all my tank husbandry practices. 
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			 I tried vodka, no luck. Switched to biopellets, no better luck. Switched back to Zeo, too early to tell. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 And if you browse through the first few pages of my journal, you can see some of my early struggles with nitrates before I finally figured it out. A couple years ago (also documented in my journal) I experimented with decommissioning my bio pellet reactor. That turned out to be a big mistake, as the nitrates returned with a vengeance and took many months to get them under control again. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 I have always used the Vertex ones, not sure if they are all the same. 1000 ml lasts about 2 years, or more (although consumed much faster initially). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 Selling one?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	Honestly, I could afford a bottle of vodka right now but not to drop $800 on a new skimmer. Perhaps in the future but my skimmer seems to work really well, I empty a lot of black goo every 4 days, just ask my family, they LOVE the smell...  | 
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			 So cost wise it's a biopellet reactor and pellets every 2 years?  I'm guessing the 2 little fishes phosban reactor isn't good enough for pellets?  I have one that was modified for them but have never used it, got it free in a trade a few years ago... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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