Wellp, here's that video of the Vertex sump :D

[e46er]

do people seriously pay that much for sumps????

i know I dont have the nicest tank in the world but I feel a sump while benfitical doesnt make or break a system. I really think a skimmer once you hit about $300 mark your paying for the longivity of the pump not so much the "better" skimmer and a return pump the same thing.
a couple cheep reactors and filter socks and clean plumbing?
my 40 G sump was $75 and IIRC $20 for glass baffles 350 for a skimmer 350 for a return pump and $50 in PVC for it. couple reactors $100.
hell $3500 is more than most peoples full set ups before livestock.
I hate being poor

[Ram3500]

Rubbermaid tote problem solved

[gregzz4]

Originally Posted by e46er

hell $3500 is more than most peoples full set ups before livestock

Sad to say I've prolly spent 10K on my 75g setup, but I see your point.
A sump is a $500 venture for the better setups, and $150 for an el-cheapo unit.

[e46er]

Originally Posted by gregzz4

Sad to say I've prolly spent 10K on my 75g setup, but I see your point.
A sump is a $500 venture for the better setups, and $150 for an el-cheapo unit.

i also have spent probably 9-10 grand over the years upgrading and changing stuff but you spent 10 grand right off the bat to setup a 75G without livestock? I cant even imagine how thats possible
even with an apex BK couple radions and couple vortechs that still leaves you over 5 grand for the tank rocks sand sump return pump few reactors and plumbing and heaters.

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by e46er

i also have spent probably 9-10 grand over the years upgrading and changing stuff but you spent 10 grand right off the bat to setup a 75G without livestock? I cant even imagine how thats possible
even with an apex BK couple radions and couple vortechs that still leaves you over 5 grand for the tank rocks sand sump return pump few reactors and plumbing and heaters.

Heh, you arent accounting for accumulated mistakes which should be factored into a build, IMO

[The Codfather]

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

Heh, you arent accounting for accumulated mistakes which should be factored into a build, IMO

Those put me in excess of 30k after all the years And that's being optimistic!

[e46er]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

Heh, you arent accounting for accumulated mistakes which should be factored into a build, IMO

ah yes IMO they should not be counted.IMO A build is how it sits.or the cost to build it up as it sits. "how much are you into the hobby for?" is where I would count it all.
i went from a 150 MH fixture to a 250 MH fixture to LED 3 mag returns and finally settled on a snapper. lots and lots heaters and powerheads over the years i woudnt include. i wouldnt say well since ive bought 3 lights and a dozen various pumps n powerheads so add 3 grand to it.

i relate it to vehicles. i bought my first car at 16, bought a BMW at 20 wanted a nice truck at 23 to haul bikes and dogs around easily so i bought a ram laramie not realizing what a pile of crap it was and currently have a ford platinum. i wouldnt consider that truck cost 200 grand since i made a few mistake purchases prior and decided to upgrade.

this is just how I interpret the question

[albert_dao]

It's $2500 USD shipped and include all the plumbing (fancy red pipes, fittings, conversions, silicon adapters, etc). No announcement on CAD MAP yet.

And it's not a sump, it's an entire filtration system. Anyway, the product is a fanboy's dream, not a budget savvy solution.

Originally Posted by gregzz4

Sad to say I've prolly spent 10K on my 75g setup, but I see your point.
A sump is a $500 venture for the better setups, and $150 for an el-cheapo unit.

I'm going to kindly disagree with you here. Having seen what the industry is like in the States and abroad, I'm fairly confident in saying that a serious setup down South bears very little resemblance to what we see on the boards.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

I'm going to kindly disagree with you here. Having seen what the industry is like in the States and abroad, I'm fairly confident in saying that a serious setup down South bears very little resemblance to what we see on the boards.

Agreed, lots of people willing and able to drop that kind of cash. It's a purdy unit for sure, just not something for me this side of a lottery win