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Old 03-23-2015, 03:32 PM
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Ok great so all my fish are sick

Now what?

Put them all in a hospital and treat them


What happens to the main tank?

Obviously the disease is in there hiding

This is the frustrating part of the hobby, the 10 thousand opinions without any resolve that is proven

Does anyone have a proven plan?
Proven plan: treat fish in a separate tank (pick whichever method you want: hypo, CP, copper, TTM; personally I am going with TTM as this is a tried and tested method to remove ich), leave your main DT fishless for 72 days (100% all ich parasites will die by the end of that period), put healthy fish back in after 72 days, done.

Scientific research proves that things like soaking food in garlic/Selcon, cleaner wrasses/shrimps, keeping fish healthy with lots of food, reef-safe ich medication, etc. will NOT remove ich from your system. There are no shortcuts around this, unfortunately.
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Old 03-24-2015, 01:15 AM
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so I am beginning to understand there are no shortcuts in this hobby

I decided to go another route to get rid of the ich...

Or at least I thought I would

I went to a LFS (won't say who because I don't want to bad mouth) and they gave me a "reef safe" treatment called HERBTANA

My house smells like a holistic medicine shop...not impressed

Not only that but I read after the fact that this stuff doesn't kill ich it only "prevents" it

Anyway, after I doesed 1 does I realized this isn't going to work and it was a waste of $25

So...I just spend the last 3 hours dismantling my tank and getting this stupid Kole Tang out

He is in the hospital tank...

I have added some of the copper treatment, which I will do for 3 days

Any other suggestions...

I promise to listen to the advise now...

So impatient...
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Old 03-24-2015, 03:23 AM
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I have added some of the copper treatment, which I will do for 3 days
I'm afraid it's going to be longer than 3 days of treatment......you should treat all of your fish at once. Ensure your copper levels stay consistent.
Plus your display will have to be fish less until the life cycle of MI will run its course, give or take 7-8 weeks.
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I'm afraid it's going to be longer than 3 days of treatment......you should treat all of your fish at once. Ensure your copper levels stay consistent.
Plus your display will have to be fish less until the life cycle of MI will run its course, give or take 7-8 weeks.
+1. I believe copper based medication should be around 4 weeks cycle. Make sure nothing gets cross-contaminated.

Good on you to take proactive steps. The fish and you will be happier in the long run.
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My concern iskeeping the fish alive for 45-72 days in the quarantine tank

I am going to run a skimmer and water change every 3 days

Any other suggestions?

Monitor amonia and nitrate obviously
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Default Sand sifter, snail's, crabs and cleaner shrimp?

Any of these need to be removed also?

Star fish sand sifter?

Crabs?

Cleaner shrimp?
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My concern iskeeping the fish alive for 45-72 days in the quarantine tank

I am going to run a skimmer and water change every 3 days

Any other suggestions?

Monitor amonia and nitrate obviously
Ammonia is the only thing you need to keep an eye on; fish can tolerate high nitrates so you don't have to worry about that overly so.

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Any of these need to be removed also?

Star fish sand sifter?

Crabs?

Cleaner shrimp?
Inverts can stay in the DT.
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I'm just in this whole process with my 300gal. Took all fish out. The tank is gonna have no fish for the next three to four months to ensure the ich is dead. I had tanks for years before this one and never had a single fish show signs of ich so I believe it is an as per scenario. It was definetly getting worse in my tank. And noticeably... It sucks but IMO to irradicate this crap from the tank you just have to starve it or take your chances. I will never go without quarantine on a fish or coral again. I don't ever want to tear this tank down again. A painful but needed learning lesson for me.... and dont feel bad I tried the magic elixer route too.... Just a friggin waste of money...
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I went to a LFS (won't say who because I don't want to bad mouth) and they gave me a "reef safe" treatment called HERBTANA

My house smells like a holistic medicine shop...not impressed

Not only that but I read after the fact that this stuff doesn't kill ich it only "prevents" it

Anyway, after I doesed 1 does I realized this isn't going to work and it was a waste of $25
Personally, I would totally throw them under the bus and share who they are. If you are uncomfortable with that, and they are a sponsor here, please vote in the Sponsoring Vendors Rating Forum. Knowledge is power.

Sorry to hear about the troubles.
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I usually just feed my fish selcon and garlic infused food and the ice usually goes away. I have a hippo tang and those guys a ich magnets I also feed a bit heavier when I see ich. the garlic will help boost the immunity.
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