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			 Any sources in Canada for Ushio bulbs? Haven't been able to find any, or have they also gone the way of Phoenix? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 I haven't seen Ushios for a couple of years now.  I only see them online with US retailers.  It's possible you can still get them but I haven't seen any (locally in Canada). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 This sucks.  Phoenix are my favorite.  How about Ushio 20000K DE?  Good growth?  Too blue? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 I tried the 20K Ushios once and didn't really like them.  As you suggested, too blue for me.  Others may like that, but the bluer bulb does mean slower growth. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 My first mh setup came with 5-6 different 10k bulbs that were all too white for me.  Tried Pheonix and loved them.  Then I tried the $20 Artemis 14K bulbs from hobbylights onestop and visually they were exactly the same as Pheonix 14k.  Not sure about growth but I liked the look and loved the $20 price.  Unfortunately hobbylights doesn't list them on their website anymore so I switched back to Pheonix.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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