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Old 12-19-2013, 06:49 PM
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Good question and yes if you want to do near 100% water changes a week but even then you would still get depletion of trace elements in between the water changes where as with the TM system these vastly depleted elements are re introduced to your system on a daily basis through dosing.

Something also to remember you need the free NACL in your tank combined with the ABC to make up NSW not just ABC alone. I missed that point in the quote from your post. So NSW is essentially NACL + ABC (in specific proportions)

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Old 12-19-2013, 09:33 PM
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But one could also use other trace element supplements along with simple two part dosing to accomplish essentially the same thing.
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No sorry 100% incorrect.

Do you know exactly what trace elements are in sea salt exactly and to what required proportion? The whole purpose is to have a balanced system, you cant juggle multiple solutions hoping to get it somewhere roughly right, and by the time you have done all that you might of well spent the money on the proper system.

Many are not even available as an independent system.

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I'm pretty sure I can come up with plenty of information on what trace elements are in sea salt and how they are consumed etc. There's no magic there. There are plenty of companies selling trace element supplements of various sorts. Complete or not.

I know you are selling this stuff and it's your job to promote it but let's not pretend there is some special magic in the Tropic Marin system. It's Calcium Chloride, Sodium Bicarbonate and a trace element solution. And honestly, every Ca and Alk supplement on the market are ridiculously overpriced, probably overly dilute and can be replicated easily at home for much less money.

I'm not trying to make this a dig on the Tropic Marin product which is probably good and does the job but you are making it sound like super magical solutions to maintaining our reef chemistry that can't be accomplished with other products and I think there are many ways to accomplish the same thing.
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But once you have gone to all that effort to try and cobble together all these elements it will cost you probably double what a set of Tropic marin would and then you have to go to all the effort to try and make it work, is it really worth it trying to do it DIY hoping you may save some money which ultimately after all that effort I am pretty confident you would not.

But for sure please post here your DIY recipe and costs it would be a great exercise.

Nobody is pretending its magic, its reef chemistry, nature sets the rules not us, there is no magic here, I think you would find the seminar very informative to be honest if you think this is all marketing magic

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The basics are when you dose 2 part you are left with sodium chloride as explained above, this imbalances your system. The cure to this is not magic, its basic reef chemistry.

extra sodium chloride is not good, so it needs to be balanced NACL sea salt does this for you. Again wheres the magic here? This is not a marketing made up product, the end result of the product is NSW.
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For anyone that fancies the gauntlet of making their own I thought I would share this

Of course you dont need the NCL as that's the part you are trying to balance

 

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