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[Aqua-Digital]

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

I have been following this thread and it is turning into another advertising campaign by aqua digital, frankly the mitras are a OK led, and if they wern't so over priced I would consider buying one, are they better than other grouped cluster LEDs nope, do they have a few more features maybe but software functions don't increase the cost of the hardware. I am really getting tired of lighting discussions turning into advertising so companies please try to keep your soap box advertising to your own forum area so the rest of us can read unbiased posts.

now it may be just me getting tired of this and if so I am sorry, but I don't think it is just me.

Steve

Oh here we go was waiting for that gem. Steve you are wrong, I am actually being a hobbyist that has played with LED's for years, funny I can join in on RC with the same thread and I am welcomed and my views taken as a hobbyist, but canreef, its a different breed. Cmon buddy I am allowed to be a human being also I dont need anyones permission, just because we distribute a product, so what least we can give accurate insight on the flip side of the coin.

Fyi no post on here is unbiased we all have our own "biased" views to share, thats what a personal opinion is.

Lets not turn this into a personal attack, this thread has been fun lets not ruin it. I stayed up late last night joining in the banter as a hobbyist and it was a pleasure to be involved. Lets not ruin this. Why should my interest in the hobby be sidelined just because you feel I am not one of you guys. I apologise for not asking permission first.

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital

Steve you are wrong, I am actually being a hobbyist that has played with LED's for years, funny I can join in on RC with the same thread and I am welcomed and my views taken as a hobbyist, but canreef, its a different breed.

not a different breed on canreef at all, it is actually tame compared to what RC used to be like before I stopped going there.

there are a few people who have been playing with LEDs for years, I started 12 years ago with 5 mm leds and have been experimenting ever sense, I have 3 different prototypes designs and a friend of mine who moved to china to oversee a Canadian manufacturing company has already worked out the build and costs to my spec's, but I will probably never have them brought in as I could never get away with selling a fixture that would be just as good if not better than anything out there for 1/3rd the cost. I have seen what happens to people who try bring in a high end produce at a sub bargain price from other producers and its not worth the hassle, but thats neither here nor there, my comment was not a personal attack at all but a observation that every time you get in a lighting discussion the thread turns into a discussion on how good the leds your company sells are. we all know that, canreef is a small board and gets saturated quickly.

I actually like what you have done for the "high end" market in Canada 15-20 years ago we were very limited on what we could get and hence if the archives still work you can find my posts on testing on lighting solutions for people who couldn't afford high end stuff. the weird thing is I had a 90 gal tank at the time and over 3 years I spend over 10000 on lighting and test equipment alone. at that point in time we didn't have a sanjay to tell us what lights works and what kind of output they had.

I have been semi out of the hobby myself for about 5 years, due to retiring, moving and a new job so I mostly just follow along or take the odd jab at Brad or Doug but lately I have been looking at my 1/2 finished tanks in the garage and testing to see if there is to much vibration from the train tracks in the basement to set up a new system, so my interest is once again peeked. I am sure your mitras would be a good LED for my needs but I think they have been priced out of the range of the average guy, but I get it your a high end product guy.

so take me with a grain of salt, I'm old and sometimes I just get tired of weeding through advertising to get to the meat and potatoes of the topic.
and trust me if I could aford it I would have a proflux and a 4 station dosing pump on this new setup.

Steve