What's your take on zeovit?

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Acrowhora

Been using prodibio bio-digest and bioptim for a while now and love the results.also using the ff KZ additives:amino acid,amino acid lps,pohl's xtra,coral vitalizer,k potassium balance,sponge power,macro elements,iron,and I'm getting good coloration and growth.just purchased coral snow and dosed on Friday but haven't noticed any changes yet(too early perhaps)

Basically you are using almost all the required zeovit products other than the basic four used for ULNS :P So why not use the complete system

Originally Posted by Proteus

I think once you look into the cost of the two programs zeo will be more costly.

I run some zeo products in my tank and the zeo products are twice as much

I can get. Prodi for $40 big box

All the zeo foods are $50+. Per bottle.

Give it a shot u may love it




Myself though prodi runs me $120 a year
The zeo foods prob over $300 a year

Well here's the difference. The $120 cost that you are pointing out is only to reach ULNS. Afterwards, you will have to start dosing other stuffs to reach the point where you appreciate you did the ULNS in the first place (and hence the added cost).

Prodibio biotim + biodigest (15+15 vials box) costs $40 (taking the cost you posted).

My tank is 70 gallon (net volume). So basically, I will have to dose the exact same amount that a 100 gallon would dose. Each vial cost $1.3 (excluding TAX). Basically, I will have to dose 4 vials every 15 days (2 + 2) thus, costing me 8 vials every month ($10.6). Afterwards, I will have to reach out to add elements like CV (+$50), CS (+$50), xtra (+$50)....etc.....cost actually starts getting build up.

It would be wise to compare prodibio's cost directly to the basic four.

1lt of zeolite = $17. This will go will be enough for 16 weeks/4 months (500lt is needed for my tank). So, this costs $4.25.

Zeobac 10ml = $20. For my tank, I will have to dose 3 drops (perhaps) twice per week. Hence 6 drops per week or 24 drops per month. That equals to around 1ml per month. So this bottle will cost me $2/month.

Zeofood 50ml = $20. For my tank, I will have to dose 3 drops (perhaps) twice per week. Hence 6 drops per week or 24 drops per month. That equals to around 1ml per month. So this bottle will cost me $0.4/month

Zeostart 250ml = $45. For my tank, I will have to dose 0.5ml daily. Thus 15ml monthly. So this bottle will cost me $2.7/month

So, basically, prodibio would cost me $10.6/month for the same result (being optimistic here) that zeovit would do for $9.35/month. Rest of the cost will incur depending on personal ways and views. But basically, to maintain ULNS, that's the cost for my tank.

Generally, in zeovit forum, people who run full form of zeovit predicts a cost of $20-25/month on a moderately sized tank. So, extrapolating that results in a maximum of $300/year. I am sure that will go up with prodibio if you follow the same dosing regime as with complete zeovit system.

Originally Posted by e46er

I dosed the same 3 you bought for close to a year with no noticeable difference when I started or when I quit except my wallet was lighter.

Like Albert said, I am also reading this for the first time that those 3 didn't work, esp coral snow. Don't really know....

[SoloSK71]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Basically you are using almost all the required zeovit products other than the basic four used for ULNS :P So why not use the complete system



Well here's the difference. The $120 cost that you are pointing out is only to reach ULNS. Afterwards, you will have to start dosing other stuffs to reach the point where you appreciate you did the ULNS in the first place (and hence the added cost).

Prodibio biotim + biodigest (15+15 vials box) costs $40 (taking the cost you posted).

My tank is 70 gallon (net volume). So basically, I will have to dose the exact same amount that a 100 gallon would dose. Each vial cost $1.3 (excluding TAX). Basically, I will have to dose 4 vials every 15 days (2 + 2) thus, costing me 8 vials every month ($10.6). Afterwards, I will have to reach out to add elements like CV (+$50), CS (+$50), xtra (+$50)....etc.....cost actually starts getting build up.

It would be wise to compare prodibio's cost directly to the basic four.

1lt of zeolite = $17. This will go will be enough for 16 weeks/4 months (500lt is needed for my tank). So, this costs $4.25.

Zeobac 10ml = $20. For my tank, I will have to dose 3 drops (perhaps) twice per week. Hence 6 drops per week or 24 drops per month. That equals to around 1ml per month. So this bottle will cost me $2/month.

Zeofood 50ml = $20. For my tank, I will have to dose 3 drops (perhaps) twice per week. Hence 6 drops per week or 24 drops per month. That equals to around 1ml per month. So this bottle will cost me $0.4/month

Zeostart 250ml = $45. For my tank, I will have to dose 0.5ml daily. Thus 15ml monthly. So this bottle will cost me $2.7/month

So, basically, prodibio would cost me $10.6/month for the same result (being optimistic here) that zeovit would do for $9.35/month. Rest of the cost will incur depending on personal ways and views. But basically, to maintain ULNS, that's the cost for my tank.

Generally, in zeovit forum, people who run full form of zeovit predicts a cost of $20-25/month on a moderately sized tank. So, extrapolating that results in a maximum of $300/year. I am sure that will go up with prodibio if you follow the same dosing regime as with complete zeovit system.



Like Albert said, I am also reading this for the first time that those 3 didn't work, esp coral snow. Don't really know....

Plus how much for the reactor plus how much time?

Charles

[albert_dao]

You can run zeo additives sans reactor (bak and start3) similarly to how you'd run prodibio for similar net effect. You just get a lot of benefit to having a reactor and doing everything daily. Consistency yields better results.

It's sorta like having a calcium reactor/doser setup vs manually adding your ca/kh/mg. Overall increases in water stability and makeup regularity promotes better vigor.

[lastlight]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

regularity promotes better vigor.

now you're even sounding like the descriptions on the zeo bottles

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by lastlight

now you're even sounding like the descriptions on the zeo bottles

I balk at your insinuation that I would have had anything to do with some of the wording on those bottles!

[lastlight]

Pohl's Xtra "improves vitality visibly". If Albert hasn't said that already... he was thinking it.

[SoloSK71]

I guess if you run or want to run an ULNS then it would pay. For me I like just cracking a couple of vials a month for my mostly LPS system.

Charles

[Madreefer]

I'm gonna be following this thread. I've considered getting a zeo reactor with the rocks in the past but just been too lazy to do the research. I stopped when I got to the part where it says not to run if running a refugium. But yet my refugium is not for growing any algae but strictly pods.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Madreefer

I'm gonna be following this thread. I've considered getting a zeo reactor with the rocks in the past but just been too lazy to do the research. I stopped when I got to the part where it says not to run if running a refugium. But yet my refugium is not for growing any algae but strictly pods.

Best part is the reactor is no longer expensive. Fish street sells three models between $60 to $100. You just add your own pump. Basically, its just pieces of PVC glued together so nothing to be worried about failing. People were initially concerned about the joints but it has been a long time and I haven't seen any negative review. Plus these are magnetic reactor (two magnets of the same pole at the bottom so the chamber floats) so you just pull once and it jumps few times, thus cleaning the rocks a bit better. Cool stuff.

[Madreefer]

Where is Fish Street located? Is it in the States? I prefer to support Canadian stores only. Too much of a hassle and shipping takes forever