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			 Im currently setting up my first reef tank(110g) and just had some questions. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	-Are tank controllers really worth the money? I know they can control the lighting but the lights I have already come with preprogrammed settings. Are they still worth it for everything else? -Does neptunes apex have wireless connectivity? -Does digital aquatics still have all the programming and other little glitches that I find from older posts? If anyone has any helpfull hints regarding someone's first tank it would be greatly appreciated.  | 
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			 Yes Neptune apex is wireless with the modular. Are they worth it I'd say yes here are a few things u can do. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	#1 if your tank gets to hot it will turn off your lights. 2 - feed mode set to shut off pumps and power heads. 3- if your heater fails on your contorler will cut power to it 4- u can set up a fan to turn on or chiller when temp go up. 5- u can turn on and off anything from your cell or iPad 6- u can check on the tank when your not home threw your phone Personally I think it's insurance at first u may not have much invested in coral and live stock but u will. Also they all have glitches personally I run apex on both my tanks.  | 
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			 http://youtu.be/ovFDR3lSYeg 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			A good explanation of the value of a controller. I personally think that I would have spent nearly the same money on power bars, timers, etc. I wouldn't run a tank without one. I use an Apex as well. Last edited by Madmak; 02-03-2013 at 08:07 PM.  | 
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			 I bought a Reefkeeper not too long ago when I got started in the hobby, I Wish I had spent the extra money and gone with Apex. I still have a ph controller in the packaging because I can't find any instructions on how to set it up or calibrate it. I ordered the double float switch package to go with it. You'd think a simple instruction telling you you have to mount the float switch on the bracket BEFORE you solder the wires would be included...DOH!  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			I can't get the temp probe calibrated to set it up and working properly. I have been having trouble with the desktop program to get everything running the way I want it. It comes with a single piece of paper and it directs you to their forums. For the amount of Money they charge for their system there should be a manual with Proper instructions. There is one on their website, I downloaded it and printed it out....Think there is any step by step instructions for the probes?..Nope. I shouldn't have to go searching their forums to figure out how to use their product. Wow was that a soap box rant or what!? Guess I was holdin that in for awhile I am really not happy with the reef keeper....Can ya tell? ![]() One good thing I can say, I am happy I have the thing so I am not overloaded with power bars and timers. I think an Apex is in my near future. 
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			 Hi there, congratulation on your first reef tank, PATIENCE, and start with talking to many people that have reef tanks, keep it simple, donot rely on too much technolgy. Ken 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 My little tank is run manually. With the exception of cutting out the heater I can't find a reason to spend the money on one. If I had a ca reactor then yes I would 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 Depending on the equipment you purchase, you might not need a controller. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Our system is fully automated and we don't use a dedicated controller. 
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 I use a reef keeper I don't have wireless but it's not a big deal I have the lights/heater/skimmer/return,CL,power heads and moonlights running thru it. Keeps perfect temp. The safety factor alone is worth the $$ I also found the reef keeper very easy to set up 
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